Iran deal- what each side won and lost

The above is a propaganda inspired obvious rant that has more logical fallacies and word salad that comes from morning group discussion at Bellevue. First I am a Christian its not just a claim, my life is dedicated to serving Jesus Christ. Then you go on to whine that the USA this and the USA doesn’t do that. Here is a news flash for you. The USA and the Church is separate by constitutional decree. Want another? The USAs secular leaders only give a token nod to the will and requests of its citizens, even Christians, while its real master is the love of money. Want another? I have posted this so many times you should know it by heart. I am mostly at odds against all the nations leaders. We do support the religious goals of Israel, and are diametrically opposed to Irans religious zeal of hating Christianity Israel and Israeli jews. So we do not support Iran. That may change it might not

Dream on. The above demonstrates how effective propaganda can be. Man I just hope you really don’t believe that crap. Iran despises Israel. At the time Iran nuclear talks were going on the USA's and Isreal's flag was being burned while a high ranking (I am too lazy to look up his title) Iranian leader was talking death to American death to Israel spiel.

Iran nuclear deal framework announced - CNN.com
www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/world/iran-nuclear-talks/
‎Mutually assured hyperbole: the grim reality of the Iranian nuclear deal
www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-15/bubalo-mutually.../6621640
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4 days ago ... We need to put this Iranian nuclear deal in perspective. ... You do realise this
treaty has NOT been negotiated just between the US and Iran don't you? ... Some
Iranians burned Israeli and American flags. ... Whilst the potential of being
employed by Iran directly,will not be potentialised by Iran now being ..

Having a PhD or several while admirable has nothing to do with being able to read the Iranians minds. So to answer your question you should take seriously the 800 pound gorilla, a nuclear Iran. You should learn the lessons from history. In WW2 Chamberlains peace by any means even stupidity was a clone of today’s PC generation who have a good heart but are terminally naive. The lost boys, ie the yes men, PC types who make many of the same scary naive claims as you truly think for some reason (brainwashing?) think this Iran nuclear thing is just a dress rehearsal. If it fails we can just try another tack, just like in WW2. No, that is faulty thinking my friend. Iran getting the bomb (or the means to do so) is the a large component for the end game of man. To allow even a chance of that happening is that pure stupidity emerging from history again. In WW2 Hitler did not have the bomb. Today we do and soon Iran will. Iran going nuclear will be enabled by people with your mind set. You (and the PC world) trust Iran, lol you all really do! Remember mr chamberlain and his PC groupies also trusted their Iran. Lucky for the world Germany was bombless, lol. Still Chamberlains attitude and his blind ignorance ended up costing the lives of millions. if Iran gets the bomb it will bring Armageddon and genocide of the human race.

One last thing the churches have been screaming about the plight of Christians in the middle east. Look beyond your propaganda sources and Google Voice of the Martyrs Christian persecution in the middle east then other keywords like the nations etc.


reva

 

I began reading your post and thought my god more lies! Lol! I knew Obama didn't win the release of even one hostages of any nationality there was no significant pertaining to
cracking down or partnering against terrorism etc. Thanks for the well writ sarcasm Al ~.reva

 

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True Member pjohn. Also Israel is an ally not a threat or at best an 'unknown' as Iran is. Israel isn't only an ally she is a superb and very economical military asset. Think how much an 100 mile long and 50 miles wide aircraft carrier and an army base already stocked and manned would cost the USA! Its a bargain. (I am guessing about the size of Israel. Also its size is apt to change at anytime)*

reva

 

are hezbollah and Hamas NOT Irans proxy armies?...your post is not accurate..

 

Since Israel does not consider either group an "army" and has NOT labeled them as such, your assertion is not quite accurate.

 

A major collection of supposition and conjecture that IGNORES the following:


Full text: Obama’s news conference on the Iran nuclear deal

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...mas-news-conference-on-the-iran-nuclear-deal/

 

Translation: the President explained fully the what, how and why's of the deal, which essentially just reduces your generalized complaints as mere sour grapes because the black guy in office (once again) did a better deal than the right wing GOP could not due with their "stay the course" mantra of policy.

 

mine is accurate.. unless you work for the Goverment of Israel..

oh... and of course the IRAN IRAQ war I guess never existed..

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the President Barry Hussein told us LIES.... if thats "explaning " getting ZERO and giving away our safety

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laughable ... Obama is an enemy of the USA..

 

WRONG...Obama is a loser moron and got fleeced..


Iran defense chief forbids international inspections of military sites
In about-face from nuclear deal’s terms, Hossein Dehqan says atomic watchdog won’t be allowed to probe ‘ defensive and missile capabilities
http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-defense-chief-forbids-international-inspections-of-military-sites/

 

Obama is a liar.

Obama lied when he said "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."

Obama lied when his appointees said "Inspections will be anywhere anytime."

It's easy to get an agreement if you concede to all of your opponents demands.

Obama once said any agreement with Iran would have to see the end of Iranian enrichment of uranium permanently. That isn't happening under Obama's Temporary Agreement.

 

Reality check:


The language of the joint statement of the P5+1 and Iran on April 2 indicates that there was agreement that "IAEA will have enhanced access through agreed procedures, including to clarify past and present issues." But both that language and Obama's further description of the negotiations on the issue make it clear that those procedures have not yet been negotiated.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/...ns-us-makes-false-claims-on-iran-nuclear-deal

 

The European Union approved the deal, UN unanimously backed the deal with Iran. The whole civilised world is behind the deal. What else to say? Only rogue states could possibly disagree with the agreement which was approved by everyone in the world. Right?

Iran nuke deal gets unanimous U.N. backing

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-nuc...nanimous-vote/

 

Instead of a thousand words ...

 

spin cycle.