Sweeping Federal LGBT Rights Bill Will Be Introduced This Week

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  1. sec

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    http://www.advocate.com/politics/2015/07/21/sweeping-lgbt-rights-bill-be-introduced-week

    If you click on the above HYPERLINK, it will launch a new browser window and take you to the entire story. I apologize for the source and it's obvious slant but the topic is still relevant

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    The bill would also clarify that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act cannot be used to defend discrimination against LGBT people..................................................

    The legislation also clarifies that sex-segregated facilities must admit individuals in accordance to their gender identity,



    I encourage all to research this bill and contact your representative no matter where you land on this. The part which should be noted is that it basically seeks to strip away a Constitutional right of freedom to rpactice your faith, and mandates that alternative chosen behaviors now trump Constitutionaly protected rights. I guess that it's not discrimination when Christians or Muslims are told to stop practicing their fatih and must submit to those who practice a particular lifestyle

    Well, this should come as no surprise to anyone. The recent dismantling of the Constitution has emboldened the Democrat party to now deem special privileges to those who choose to have sex in a specific manner or who decide what sex they are on a daily, hourly or random basis.

    Gyms, locker rooms, restrooms, changing rooms, sauna etc will need to allow all sexes into any facility.

    Vote Democrat if you hate common sense and hate the Constitution
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    There is literally nothing wrong with this. Your religious rights end where other people's lives begin.
     
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    That is exactly why gay marriage is a special right by itself.
    It is sad that many people do not understand it.
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    What you're saying makes no sense. It doesn't follow logically from Sec's post, and your conclusions are unsupported by any form of reasoning.
     
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    Gay marriage is a special right.
    why?
    because government made special accommodation for selected group of people without any kind of justification.
    Once it is done it opens a door for ANY kind of accommodation, i.e. any special right for selected group (LGBT).
    ANYthing can be declared as religious belief and changed to serve gay community.
    It is sad that many educated people do not understand it.
     
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    The problem is that anything can be declared a religion.
    E.g. there is legitimate reason to define marriage as union of one man and one woman, but some people said it is religion, so it should be changed to server gay community.
    Even though "religion" in this case has logical justification.
     
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    It doesn't make sense to turn this society on its head for such a small segment of the population. It isn't fair to every one else to give such a small group special rights. I'm sure there are other mentally ill people engaging in dysfunction behavior that would like to be treated like perhaps people engaging in bestiality. Are you going to deny these people their rights to pursue their goals.
     
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    On the other hand, your particular sexual preferences end where our religious rights begin. Why should the majority be subjected to a group whose sole identity is based on their sexual preference?

    I am a celibate, and I don't like you talking about your sexual habits. It offends me. Where do my rights begin and yours end?

    My celibacy is a choice and I don't expect people to walk on glass around me, but gays do expect people to tiptoe around them. Its all about the attention and the trouble-making.

    There will be hate speech laws in America before long. I may not be able to say anything to a tranny if he/she walks into my girly bathroom, but my dirty looks can kill. I will make you so uncomfortable for making me so uncomfortable.
     
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    It's not a civil right because LGBT is not a race, but a perverse lifestyle.
     
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    Getting the same right as someone else is equal, not special.
     
  11. sec

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    Christians- you must marry homosexuals

    Parents- suck it up when a grown man oggles your naked 12 year old daughter in the changing room

    nah, nothing wrong at all..........................if you vote Democrat
     
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    Perversion is entirely subjective. And of course it's a civil rights issue. Same sex couples are U.S. Citizens and can not be discriminated against because your imaginary friend says "gays are bad".
     
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    You mean religious rights end where sexual rights begin and not the other way around, its not a two way street.
     
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    If you operate a for profit business? Yes. If you are a non profit church? No.

    who is advocating this?
     
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    1: incorrect, read the article

    2: again, read the article

    The legislation also clarifies that sex-segregated facilities must admit individuals in accordance to their gender identity,

     
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    I say it should be between a man and a woman and it has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with why we as a society and species have marriage and especially legal marriage at all.

    Tell me why did we as a society and advanced species establish marriage and have our government sanction it legally?
     
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    I guess denying equal right to a minority is the Christian thing to do.
     
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    In zoology and biology, one of the criteria used to define a group of organisms as a particular species is that they procreate to produce sexually viable offspring. Accordingly, there are many gays that do not meet the criteria for belonging to a species. I guess zoologically some gays would be non-entities because they can't procreate. Maybe zoologists can make an exception to the long standing rules concerning classification of species. Maybe they could call gays "noprocreatidae"

    Yes, I, as a celibate would not be able to procreate but then I have raised my children.
     
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    Everyone had the same right to marry someone of the opposite sex as is the definition of marriage. Or was until it became bastardized.
     
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    Only white male Christians are expected to marry another male. White women are expected to marry blacks or hsipanics.
     
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    If not wanting a middle age guy getting naked with a 12 year old girl is "the Christian thing to do", then we need more Christians

    While you've been railing on about how you wanted your gay rights etc etc, you continued to poo poo others about the slippery slope. Well, here is that slippery slope.
     
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    Seems like a nice bill, and has this in it.

    The bill would not change existing religious exemptions for religious corporations, schools, and associations to make hiring decisions based on religious beliefs if the employee will be performing work connected with their religious activities.

    So religious rights are protected but not if your a public business for example.
     
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    My only quibble is at what point does a transgendered person get to use the bathrooms they want. If someone is well into their hormone treatments and is dressing like a female and has lost many of the more masculine traits then I don't care however if someone has just started their shift and still basically looks like a man then they should use the mens restrooms. A transgendered person's comfort does NOT trump the comfort of people, especially children who might be in a bathroom only to have someone of the opposite sex waltz in. Until you get to that point suck it up and deal with it.
     
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    I am correct. Cite the portion you feel rebuts me.

    Ok? Where does it advocate diddling little girls as you claimed?
     
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    I always knew this was going to happen. The right to do this is found in the concept of protecting the minority.

    But this might not have happened now, except Republicans made this possible by being vastly against gay rights.

    Yes it's a political game. And Democrats are playing it to sway public opinion to the left for the next election.
     

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