Boy Scouts Expected to End Ban on Gay Leaders

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    And your posts contain no facts, just pure hatred.
     
  2. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, you missed the point. So answer me this, please, since it's the point I was getting at:

    Why does the military not allow men in women's berthings?
    Why can't men and women sleep in the same berthings?
    Why do we have boys in cabins with male counselors, and girls in cabins with female counselors?
     
  3. MRogersNhood

    MRogersNhood Banned

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    If someone has to post the answers,It's probably irrelevant.
    But really it's not.
    It's very sad if someone has to come up with a reason for the bsa to deviate from the norm
     
  4. sec

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    the answers don't matter

    Look to the north http://www.scoutscan.com/issues/membershipstats.html

    the membership rate in 2013 is 37% what it was in 1990 and that includes after adding some new divisions.

    Canada decided to combine all and allow sexual deviants to participate and be leaders.

    The numbers speak for themselves

    Parents will decide on their own as to whether or not they want their little children placed into potentially dangerous situations as well as exposed to sexual deviancy.

    If you'd like to know why those living the homosexual lifestyle didn't start the "gay scouts" and look to see how many children were brought to them, the numbers from Canada provide the reason. Since homosexuals knew that when the rubber meets the road, parents do not condone their sexual lifestyle, the only alternative was to try and ruin an American institution. Once again we see the vindictive nature of homosexual activists

    Numbers don't lie. Public opinion polls are nice but the reality paints a different picture. Parents don't want their little boys around men who engage in gay sex.
     
  5. perdidochas

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    You missed the reality. In the real Boy Scout organization, as it exists today (with rules that have been in place since 1987), no adult males (or females) share sleeping space with any boys that are not their sons. Your point is silly and has nothing to do with the reality of BSA camping.

    I'm a BSA leader (straight male). I can't (and actually wouldn't want to) share a tent with any scout that is not my son (both of my sons are in the troop). I can't be in a bathroom with separate stalls when non-related (to me) boys are in the bathroom (at one point at my last campout, I had to wait about 30 minutes for the bathroom to clear out so I could go). I can't be around a scout without either another adult or another scout present (again, I can be alone around a scout who is my son). Any outing has to have at least two adults, and at least one adult has to be the same gender as the Scouts (Women are allowed to be Scout leaders), and the preference is four adults.

    The other thing is that gays make up, at most, 5% of the adult male population. I doubt that there are going to be thousands of gay men volunteering to be scout leaders this year, especially considering the majority of scout leaders today are parents of scouts.
     
  6. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're deliberately evading the point. :applause:
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    No. I'm talking about the realities, not the homosexual fantasies that people have about what happens in Scout camp.

    The existing rules are that adults do not share sleeping spaces with boys. They do not use bathroom facilities at the same time as boys. If they want to enter a boy's sleeping space, they have to ask permission, and make sure the boys are not there. I don't know what your point is. I know what the realities are. I've been a Boy Scout leader for 5 years (and a Cub Scout leader for 4 years before that). I've probably spent 40 nights camping with the Boy Scouts and 10 nights with the Cub Scouts. Adults (besides parents) do not share sleeping spaces with the Scouts. Please what is your point? None of what you talk about exists in current Boy Scouts (and those rules have been in place and strictly enforced since 1987).

    To paraphrase your questions and answer them:
    The BSA does not allow men in Scout's berthings because of the appearance of impropriety and the possibility of molestation, just like the military in terms of men in women's berthings.
    The BSA does not allow adults and Scouts (besides parents) to sleep in the same berthings because of the appearance of impropriety and the possibility of molestation, just like the military .
    The BSA does not allow adults in cabins with boys. Adults sleep separately from boys. I think the whole idea of same sex young adult (meaing over 18) camp counselors in the same cabin as kids is a bad thing. Opposite sex is even worse. There is a chance for something to go wrong.

    Anyway, the whole thing is that the reality of BSA is that adults and scouts don't share bathrooms, showers or sleeping quarters. It's been the rule since 1987. This rule is strictly enforced.
     
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    At least BSA now is an employer who won't fire someone because of his sexual identity :worship:
     

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