The truth about the Planned Parenthood hoax revealed

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't play their game. It's actually irrelevant what God might think or has done.
    These people are trying to conflate abortion with whatever procedural laws that some individuals or PP clinics may or may not have broken.
    That dog won't hunt. Abortion is legal and all of their hysterical bleating about killing babies for body parts to sell for fancy cars is just irrelevant glandular emotionalism that only hurts whatever rational value their argument has about corruption or criminal actions by people or clinics.
    Cons continue to be their own worst enemy because they think with their glands rather than their brains.
     
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    Are you claiming Clinics do not exist in the states you mentioned?
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    How happy you are in the cocoon where you don't see Repub/Conservative women and the abortions they get....:)
     
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    Well if no women are going to Planned Patenthood then the fetus film must be imaginary.
     
  6. Professor Peabody

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    Cocoon...hardly, it's just a simple matter of numbers. Think of it this way, take (2) 1 gallon jugs full of water. In one jug poke one hole and the other 4 or 5 holes, which will be empty first?

    By far Republican/Conservative women are "pro life" and Democrat/Liberal women are "pro abortion".

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/147941/republicans-unified-democrats-abortion.aspx

    It would be naive to think some Republican/Conservative women don't have abortions, 26% consider themselves "pro abortion". However, it would be equally naive to believe they get them in the same numbers as Democrat/Liberal women who 63% consider themselves "pro abortion".
     
  7. bwk

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    Because we do not know when that life actually begins, as stressed in the article I posted; https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html While a few here have read it, there is an attempt to take it out of context to suit their own argument. But if you read the whole thing, the conclusions are based on the science, that the beginning of life is still in question. However, if one were to wrap their head around the science, and you have a developing human being in a womb of a mother, with a brain that is not yet fully developed to signal consciousness, while there is a developing neural system going on there, and without some signal from God, it is pretty clear to me that life has yet to begin.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    That would only hold true if ALL women got abortions...or none did.

    Being Anti-Choice doesn't mean they will never have an abortion...and being Pro-Choice doesn't mean they will all have abortions...
     
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    Right wing politicians have been promoting abortions for 35 years by standing in the way of sex education and birth control.

    Planned Parenthood has likely prevented millions of abortions over time. Where's this conversation?

    Birth Control is abortion prevention absolutely.

    Sex Education is abortion prevention.

    Supporting No Birth Control and No Sex Education = more abortions.

    How many know that Planned Parenthood is wayyyyy more pro-active about abortion prevention than the right wing politicians have ever been?

    Planned Parenthood locations are more like medical clinics which offer a variety of services for both male and female. A great source for low income human beings.

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-info
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    Oh, those irritating facty things ! ;)

    I'm sure you'll get some drooling response like , "but , but , Sanger was a racist and PP wants sports cars and huge profits and eats murdered babies!""
     
  11. bwk

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    yes....I see that.
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    Very true, but you need to read this......

     
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    The original post is correct.

    Federal money is not used for abortions.

    Defunding planned parenthood is NOT about defunding abortion, because the funding being cut is not used for abortions. This is just typical right wing political theater.

    Too bad republicans can't be honest with the American people. What I would really like to see is republicans actually have an agenda that they want to present.... You know... A plan to replace Obamacare is they think it is so bad. A plan to deal with Iran nukes if they think this deal is so bad. A plan to deal with ISIS is what we are doing is so bad., etc... Instead all we get is a bunch of guys whining about planned parenthood or that Obama sucks but absolutely no plans... Just one big party of whiners with no suggestions to improve things.
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    And that has what to do with whether they're Repub or Democrat?

    If your stats are true , it sure strengthens the case for PP.....providing safe affordable accessible BC and abortions.
     
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    What does the Demographics of abortions have to do with the price of apples?
     
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    Don't think you're going to get a lot of "Amen's' from the pro-life crowd on that one I'm afraid.
     
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    Says who? They have separate electrical wiring and water service that they switch over to in the room whenever an abortion is being conducted? The people involved go on an "abortion" wage paid separately? They charge enough for the abortion for the service to be self-sustaining?

    It's about defunding an organization engaged in the trafficking of baby parts, consprining to break the law to do so and I have no reason to believe they are not actually breaking the law.

    And all their other services can be supplied by the thousands of other health clinics like the ones women go to for mammograms which PO does not do.
     
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    I'm an atheist and my education in biology taught me life begins at conception and that fits my morals.

    So what? Doesn't mean they are not a human being.

    Well that is not the law here, it can be a homicide. How about in your country?

    Well he supposedly said thy shall not kill so can I take you oppose abortion then, or are you just trying to tell people of religious faith what they have to believe so you can then argue against it?

    - - - Updated - - -

    you assume pro-life = religious faith and religious faith = pro-life
     
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    I don't need to convince someone of relevance. He stated she didn't think she was relevant, I stated she was to a lot of people, who also have brains. What part of this don't you understand?

    That figures and don't care.
    I do enjoy you hanging on every word of my posts, attempting to call them insults because I am putting you in your place. It's flattering, really. Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't make it insulting, and perhaps you should look to the poor quality of your posts first before attempting a critique of mine.

    Bottom line, PP is here to stay. It helps so many people, most of them poor, which is (ironically) what the cons hate about it. Bible thumpers can jump off a cliff for all I care, women's healthcare is not in your bronze age book of fairy tales.
     
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    Not anymore, not with obamacare.
     
  23. bwk

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    No, I think that is just one of the tricks in the box those folks will use, because they themselves cannot tell us or themselves when life begins. They will claim the egg and the sperm is the conception of life's beginning, while they can't explain why. And when they can't, they will turn to religion to bail them out with their own failed argument.
     
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    Killing babies for profit is so helpful.

    The problem is, getting a baby dislodged from your womb isn't something going on "in your bedroom".

    Helping is one thing, supporting for generations is another. If you don't comprehend that, then perhaps you should stay out of adult conversations.
     
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    who are we to believe... you or our lying eyes??
     

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