Two republican candidates have democrat running scared

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IMO two republican candidates have democrats running scared. They are Dr Carson, and Carly Fiorina. Good Heavens----------------------a black and a woman. Both put on a fantasic showing in the debates.

    If they dont win the nomination, the person that does would be stupid not to select one or the other as his running mate. Then who ever the democrats nominate, if they said something bad about the republican ticket, republicans every where can call the democrats either racist or sexist. The shoe will be on the other foot!!!!!!
     
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    What makes you think Democrats are scared of Carson or Fiorina? Doing well in a debate does not translate into fear from the opposing party.
     
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    Isn't Carson the guy in the debate who begged off on answering a question based on his not being a politician, but being a neurosurgeon?

    Why would we select someone who isn't a professional to run an organization as truly gigantic and complex as America?

    And, I doubt your suggestion that Americans are stupid enough to fall for name calling schemes that don't even wash on boards like this.

    The Dems are going to make education a key issue in the coming election. What's the GOP answer?
    The GOP has made health care change a key issue. What's the GOP answer?
    The RNC killed comprehensive immigration reform even when it was bipartisan and had the votes to pass. What's the GOP answer?
    The GOP has not projected foreign policy control - once again pointing especially to YOUR proposed guy, Carson.
    The GOP has promised no more than "trickle down" in economics, claiming we're in bad shape when employment and the economy as a whole are on the rise, and are projected to be strong over the next year.

    I could go on and on. The problem the GOP will face has little to do with whether there is a black person or a female. It's that they don't have answers to the long list of key issues.

    I do agree that Fiorina might be a VP choice - if they can choose Palin, they can choose Fiorina!! There is no longer ANY actual talent barrier to being a GOP VP candidate.
     
  4. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can post the usual democrat drivel, but where has Obama gotten the country. Wont it be great when Fiorina calls democrats and MSM that attack her sexist twits????
     
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    Um, are you young enough not to remember the 2008 election?

    I'm pretty sure that McCain had exactly the same thought you did. That's how he ended up with Palin. But it didn't gain him any votes, and it doesn't seem to have phased the democrats in terms of them calling Republicans anti-women.

    Still, it might not be a bad idea for the Republicans to try it again. I've been hearing good things about how Dr. Carson is being received. He really doesn't have experience though, so he could end up in the same kind of situation as Palin.

    He might be able to spend a while as surgeon general and then make a serious run though.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Nobody likes a candidate that calls their opponent names. We don't even like posters who do that.

    The GOP "debate" gave no plans for any of the issues I pointed to. And, that is a GOP characteristic. For years now they've complained about "Obamacare" without having any plan for health care and having ALL their dire predictions dramatically failing to come true. Likewise on all the topics I mentioned, there was a lot of talk, but no debate on issues, with most of the focus being on the publicity oriented nonsense of "The Donald".

    The GOP has owned the House AND the Senate for months now, and what we're getting is .... NOTHING!!!

    It's time to get serious. We need people who can create solutions.

    Saying "no" isn't a solution.
    Saying "no" 55 times in the House isn't a solution.
    Holding America hostage for weeks isn't a solution.
    Killing an improvement on our situation with Iran isn't a solution.
     
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    I think the GOP is far too focused on beating the Dems rather than leading America right now. So, we get the black guy, the woman, the angry millionaire, the Christians, the Hispanic, etc.

    What we need is people who understand the issues and can communicate a plan in key areas.

    I saw none of that in the debate, although I didn't hear Fiorina, because she could only make the kids table.
     
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    Sorry but no one is running scared over Dr. Carson. He would be a good boost for VP I think but that is about all. As for Fiorina, she did very well in the GOP debate circle she was in, but she doesn't have the name recognition of the other GOP candidates nor does she have the financial backing to become the GOP pick IMO. She is a wild card though and may prove to be formidable will have to see in later debates if she makes it.

    Bottom line no one is running scared for Dr. Carson at all and IMO Fiorina won't get the nomination for the Dems to even think of running scared right now.
     
  9. Shiva_TD

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    This is a gross misreprentation of both Dr Carson, and Carly Fiorina.

    Dr Carson maybe a good doctor but his lack of knowledge on both domestic and foreign issues fundamentally disqualifies him from being a good presidental candidate.

    Dr Carson couldn't even get it right related to American history during the debate because he referred to the founders as being "hard working" when, in fact, they represented the intellectual elite that had never worked a hard day in their lives. George Washington, as commander of the Continental Army, never suffered the hardships of the soldiers under his command. Thomas Jefferson was born into a family of wealth and never spent a single day working along side those in the fields on his plantation. Great thinkers but not hard workers and we benefited from their intellectualism and not from their hard work. Ironically Republicans generally oppose intellectualism today.

    Carly Fiorina, while having an excellent career in the private sector, has no experience in government. A nice person but lacking in a necessary understanding of government that doesn't operate at all like a corporation.

    The Democrats have no reason to fear either simply because they're not qualified to be president.

    What Democrats probably need to fear is Bernie Sanders, and independent running for president as a Democrat. Sanders is drawing larger crowds to his rallies than any Democratic or Republican candidate so far. If nominated by the Democrats then he's not the person to carry the traditional Democratic banner into the White House.

    Republicans simply have to fear the fact that regardless of the Democratic candidate they're the underdog unlikely to secure the presidency in 2016. So far they haven't shown any candidate that would actually win the presidency and Donald Trump is a wild card that could remove even the remote possibility of that happening. If nominated Trump can't win and if not nominated he threatens to run as a independent that would split the Republican vote resulting a sure-fire Democratic win.
     
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    I would agree that neither has the requisite experience to be in the number 1 slot. My money however, says that Fiorina will likely be the VP choice. She is very well spoken, highly intelligent, and great at being aggressive. If a man attacks Hillary they will paint it as a war on women, but Fiorina can do so and avoid any such characterization.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of the attacks on the both of them indicate I am right. So which are you sexist or racist????
     
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    Oh the irony of that question, because that's precisely what the left and the far left did TO this nation in 2008 when they selected a first term U.S. senator with ZERO meaningful national level experience or leadership or management history to become president of the United States of America. Sheesh!
     
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    Out of the mess the previous Republican administration left behind!

    How many times does that have to be repeated before it sinks in?
     

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