Will The Donald be treated fairly by the establishment?

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  1. ElDiablo

    ElDiablo Banned

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    Well, not according to Pat Buchanan...who just said there is a plot afoot to purge Trump from the Republican Party.

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/gop-elites-plot-to-purge-trump/


    Certainly no suprise.....I have said as well as others the elitist republicans had rather have a democratic president than a true spokesman for the people, someone who will stand up for the working class, someone who will tell the truth.....because the elites know that if such a man arises who really wants justice for the American People.....their days are numbered....these greedy bastards are revealing their true color....and it ain't pretty.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump IS the establishment. How naive are people that a billionaire country-club dwelling Wharton School graduate can convince them he is a man-of-the-people? You think because he puts on a baseball cap he's suddenly achieved empathy with the average Joe? I haven't seen such a transparent snake oil salesman since, well, actual snake oil salesmen.
     
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    Absolutely incorrect asessment...........now no doubt he is a very rich man but that does not inherently make him a part of the 'political establishment'..........to understand where Trump is coming from you need to understand what he advocates.

    Does the establishment aka the big wig, elitist Republicans advocate securing our borders?...of course not. Does Donald Trump?....absolutely.

    Trump if you must have a lable is a 'populist conservative'. He will shake up the Republican Party big time.....irregardless whether he takes the Republican nomination or not. The republican party will be forced to change this time around.....they will no longer be able to foist a politically correct liberal/moderate candidate onto the people....in essence giving the people really no choice aka....a democrat or a democrat in disguise.
     
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    they will try to act like they are... while intentionally throwing curve balls.... like the fox debate imo
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so your saying the crazies on the right wont seem as crazy this time round next to trump and the moderates will seem to tame in comparison?
     
  6. ElDiablo

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    You seem terribly 'coinfused'....try and listen to Trump instead of the talking heads who want to denigrate him>>>>>>>>>>>>>https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQqQIwAGoVChMIvaeKw--rxwIVRpIeCh2jNQR6&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftherightscoop.com%2Fmark-levin-interviews-donald-trump%2F&ei=hpnPVb3MNsakeqPrkNAH&usg=AFQjCNHJrFjguckH4aVEg4JcyIB49vaP7Q&sig2=yPoT_R-3BSF8W9OMyBEJdQ&bvm=bv.99804247,d.dmo
     
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    He is not a true spokesman. He is just a moron and populist. What is he saying? That he will force Mexico to build a wall on the border for America. Why does the poor Mexico have to built any infrastructure for the rich America? What harm will he do to them if they refuse? That is called bullying, my friends. He publicly says he would beat China and Japan on trade. How will he do this? By restricting their export to America? What about Americans who want to by their products? And besides Asians and especialy Japanese people are very proud folks. You don't know what may come out of your desire to beat them at something publicly. But at the same time Trump says he would make good friends with Putin and blames Obama for being to worsening relationships with Russia. And he blames George Bush for destabilizing the Middle East by defeating brutal dictator Saddam Hussein. He is a scumbag really. Not a true spokesman.
     
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    Trump has no real wealth. Its an illusion. Its estimated worth of his name. In fact he is a pile of debts. Most projects he has put his name on have failed. He's an illusion of hot air.

    He has made it this far as a reaction to a political phenomena. For 8 years Obama has apologized for the US in each and every speech and emasculated the US at every level of communication as a nation. He stripped the country of its pride and ego. Trump is hot air and all ego-a big hot blast of ego so people embrace it as a reaction to Obama's spineless appeasement and apologies

    This is what you see being embraced people wanting Americans to be proud of America not apologize for it. So he has tapped into that collective psychological phenomena for now.


    He went too far though with his bleeding from whatever body parts to a female journalist and accusing McCain of being a coward and providing th home phone number of a fellow candidate. The façade is wearing off and what is showing is an unstable, self destructive man with an impulse control disorder. He does not think before he speaks. Its probably a form of frontal lobe damage or adhd tat causes it-its highly noticeable int he way he blurts out immediately then tries to deny what he said outright. It is a classic neurological defect that will sabotage him. One day when you least expect it he will say something so outrageous he will just quit. Its what he does. He quits when he feels unappreciated.

    I give him another month. Serious politicking has yet to happen.
     
  9. Blinda Vaganto

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    He is not a true spokesman. He is just a moron and populist. What is he saying? That he will force Mexico to build a wall on the border for America. Why does the poor Mexico have to built any infrastructure for the rich America? What harm will he do to them if they refuse? That is definition of the international bullying. He publicly says he would beat China and Japan on trade. How will he do this? By restricting their export to America? What about Americans who want to buy their products? And besides that Asians and especialy Japanese people are very proud folks. You don't know what may come out of your desire to beat them at something publicly. But at the same time Trump says he would make good friends with Putin and blames Obama for worsening relationships with Russia. And he blames George Bush for destabilizing the Middle East by defeating brutal dictator Saddam Hussein. He is a scumbag really. Not a true spokesman.
     
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    So many inaccuracies in the above post I will not waste my time correcting them...I am sure someone will.

    Just one example that proves you are wrong: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjACahUKEwiZ-5Pm9KvHAhXBqh4KHZGaDsg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fdonald-trump-net-worth-2015-7&ei=Dp_PVZm8JsHVepG1usAM&usg=AFQjCNGs5Ko-1Std9As6V_r_JqygWX7eiA&sig2=nIHlqLYnJc4-20NFi-LcZg&bvm=bv.99804247,d.dmo

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    I have to laugh...no one is more articulate that Donald Trump. Now you may not like his message and of course you are entitled to your opinion.....but that is all you have and it is not enough. I suggest you study up and then come back on here with a more reasoned and logical approach.

    BTW When you want to lie about someone.....at least try and be honest i.e. You call him a populist like that is some way you can demonize him...do you not know what a populist is? Here is the definition: Populist | Definition of populist by Merriam-Webster
    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/populist
    Merriam‑Webster
    Definition of POPULIST. 1. : a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people;

    Now, I ask you what is wrong with being a populist?
     
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    He owns more in domain names than you will make in your entire life, GG argument.
     
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    Hey! Good one!
    Pretty biased,though.
     
  13. Doug_yvr

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    Where have you been? The Republicans have been talking about that border and illegal immigration long before Trump came along. Who do you think built the wall that's currently there.
     
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    He says to people what they want to hear even if it's not true and he know it isn't. He says he can fix relationships with Russia and that this is Obama's fault somehow that they are broken. And Americans like to hear this because they don't like confrontation with someone who owns thousands of nuclear warheads. But the truth is that Trump can do nothing to mend relationships with Russia as Putin needs this confrontation with the West to divert anger and frustration of his people from himself.
     
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    Dear Republican Establishment:

    BROTHER, YOU ASKED FOR IT!

    Since the inception of the Tea Party movement, conservatives have listened to the promises of smaller government, massive spending cuts, balanced budgets, repealing of ObamaCare, closing of America’s open borders, and a strong opposition to Obama and the Democrat’s socialist agenda. And every time we supported Republicans in the elections, we were immediately disappointed by the actions and votes of those we elected through hard work and sacrifice. We believed you, Republican Establishment. We believe you no more.

    Not only were we deceived by Republicans, GOP Establishment leaders openly insulted conservatives. Whether being called “whacko birds” by an ancient Arizona Senator or being told the current Senate Majority Leader would like to “punch the Tea Party in the nose,” we slowly came to realize the only group that despised Tea Party conservatives more than the Democrats was the Republicans! Those who begged us for votes to return them to power. The Republican Establishment loves our votes but despise the conservative voter who pulls the lever.

    Furthermore, we realized that there is virtually zero difference between either political party. Mitch McConnell is Harry Reid. John Boehner is a total failure who has done nothing to halt America’s decline into socialism. What has been the major focus of the Republican Establishment over the past several years? Immigration reform (read: Amnesty for 30 million illegal aliens) that will create tens of millions of Democrat voters.

    Republican Establishment, the American taxpaying worker is hurting. You have shown with your votes, actions, and words you do not care about us. So now, we have stopped caring about you.

    It is beginning to set into your corrupt skulls that you have lost our support. . You and your minions at Fox News are unable to halt the polling surge by Donald Trump while your man, El Jeb Bush is going backwards. Yet, you still don’t understand why. Or choose not to.

    Let Angry White Dude break it down for you. We conservatives hate you, Republican Establishment. We hate your candidates, too. We hate Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham, and the rest of the Democrat-Lite ilk you support. We will not vote for them. Some held their noses and voted for McCain and Romney....obviously not enough. Two losers. Your men. Why did they lose? Because they are politically correct moderates who did not win our confidence or votes. We won’t vote for your choice again. We will vote for OUR choice.


    Read more at http://angrywhitedude.com/2015/08/open-letter-to-republican-establishment-brother-you-asked-for-it/"]image: http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2015/08/BN-FI705_Leader_G_20141103150039.jpg
     
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    Trump speaks nothing but the truth that is why he leads the pack...people appreciate someone that can be honest and not politically correct....listen up>>>https://quemadoinstitute.wordpress....ld-pal-with-putin-a-powerful-global-alliance/
     
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    The Republican establishment doesn't like you either tea party. You are racist whackos who have discredited the GOP and will insure that there will once again be a Democrat in the White House.
     
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    I have a theory why he leads the polls. Conservatives are tired of choosing someone who would be smart, and moral and nice and who would later be barely elected and then hated like (*)(*)(*)(*) like it was with G.Bush or would not be elected at all like McCain and Romey. So they decided to experiment and to choose someone who is stupid, immoral and rude.
     
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    and yet he has no evidence that Mexico is actually sending criminals across the border.

    sorry to break it to ya, but Trump is just an attention-whore clown.

    he will pull out of the race by October.
     
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    Surely you jest...........no criminals coming across the border? Have you not heard all of the news on the crimes perpetrated by illegals? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=hFW6iFr6CmFS1V1OnD3i7Q&bvm=bv.99804247,d.dmo

    Unfortunately for you and the Republican big wigs, the democrats and all the other devotees of political correctness..........Trump is in for the long haul. If not assasinated he will be the next President.
     
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    hehheh Now tell us why you really hate Trump.

    You are going to get more miserable as time goes by and Trump continues to surge and surge.
     
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    so you have no evidence that Mexico is actually SENDING here?

    i thought not
     
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    I like Trump. BTW his daughter is certainly good for my eyes----she's a knock out. Will definitely stop traffic!!!!!!!
     
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    The problem is hidden inside their 'snake oil'. It contains a 'virus', and once it got into your mind your mind is 'infected', and it stays 'infected'. The cure is, don't get even more 'infected' than too many people already are.
    Because the 'patient' will heal when the 'virus' is halted to grow. But it will take perhaps two decades, in the mean while the snake oil salesmen continue to sell their oils. Anti 'snake oil' is very hard to sell, because it is becoming scarce by the day.
     
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    hmmmm I see what I am not up against here.....who said 'not the sharpest tack in the box'? Well, not me of course--I would never say anything like that. I am always, always very polite and that is the way it should be...yes most definitely.

    Irregardless..........perhaps you could help us out here.....it seems you are attempting to distinguish some difference between an illegal that comes here of his own volition and or those who are coming here because they are somehow on a mission at the behest of the Mexican Government.

    Now, I have never heard Trump claim that the illegals coming here are somehow on a secret mission at the behest of the Mexican Government...but perhaps I just missed that...perhaps you could provide a link on that?

    Actually.........what is the difference on whether they come here on their own volition or the Mexican Government forces them to come here? The problem is they are here....are you listening? They are here.....that is the problem.

    Just for clarification purposes: Here is what Trump actually said regarding above................."When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

    It appears that you have mis-interpeted what Trump actuallly meant...........and it is quite a leap that you have taken....and only someone saturated with political correctness would make such a ridiculous 'leap' .........when Trump said Mexico sends it's people he was merely referring to the fact that these illegals are coming from Mexico.....but there can be no doubt that the Mexican Government is more than happy that they do come up here....basically for two reasons ....those coming up here send money back to Mexico...their largest source of revenue BTW and Mexico gets rid of a lot of 'undesirables' similar to how Castro emptied his jails and insane asylums and put them on boats to America and jimmah ah say jimmuh carter did nothing about it.

    Now you may live far from the border and are not that concerned about how conditions have deteriorated....but the illegals are now spreading out all over the country...so do not think you could not be affected.

    http://toprightnews.com/mexico-receives-21-6-billion-in-cash-sent-back-by-u-s-illegals-in-2013/
     

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