Bernie Sanders has a big chance of being the Democratic Nominee!

I truly believe that we are in the middle of something big this election season.

I haven't seen anything like this, at least in my lifetime.

People are actually excited about politics, or should I say, people are excited about Bernie.

Bernie Sanders is telling it like it is, letting the American people know that we are being screwed big time, by our politicians and by big corporations.

He is just saying what everybody else was thinking......The American people are not stupid.....We know we are getting the short end of the stick.

People wonder why there are 100,000 able-working citizens out of the labor force, it's because there are no jobs, and the jobs that are around don't pay us for what we are worth.

Who here thinks Bernie has a chance of winning the nomination?

Why? Why not?

What do you think of Bernie? Would you vote for him? No?

 

I don't for a second believe that Sanders has all the answers, but he's more on point than any recent politicians have been without the additional baggage of being trapped in a time vortex and thinking it's 1815 instead of 2015 like Ron Paul did. I think a lot of his support comes from the same place that Ron Paul's support came from though, that being consistency of the candidate and what he says and believes and votes for. Like him or hate him, with Sanders you know what you're getting more than you do with any of the other candidates in this election cycle, although it could be argued that Trump is similar in that we'd be getting a boob if he is elected because he is a boob and has been consistently boobish for as long as I can remember.

 

We saw this in 2008 when people were tired of old white men running the country.

 

By election season, old man Bernie might be all that's left on the left. He's way too weak though, did you see how he let those BLM inbreds attack his speech and run him off stage? We can't elect another coward. 8 years of one is enough.

 

Your homeboy Bill Clinton sold you out. That's why there are no jobs.



And despite what your parents and teachers told you growing up, you're not special. You have no intrinsic value, you are only worth what the market determines you are worth, so it's silly to pretend jobs aren't paying you what you're worth. If all you can get is jobs that pay you below what you think you should be paid, and you're not able to get something better, guess what? You're getting what you are worth.

 

That is the most idiotic opinion I think I have ever heard.

I agree with you, Bill Clinton was just a Republican disguised as a liberal.

However, I think people that work in fast food and retail jobs are worth a lot more than $7.25/hr, especially when the owners of said corporations are taking in hundreds of millions of dollars, the CEO's are raking in tens of millions, while they pay the people that actually work full time (40 hours/week) $15,000/year.

It's a disgrace, it's shameful and Bernie is going to level out the field as much as he can.

 

Bernie is slowly creeping up the polls and is now at 30%. Still this is well below Clinton at 49% but we have a long way to go. Bernie is building momentum and he is getting his message out. He is drawing crowds like no other candidate.

"To the Billionaires - You can't have it all" http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07...tt-walker-record-setting-wisconsin-rally.html

 

If Trump is the only alternative, yeah, I'll take my chances with Bernie.

 

Actually, Nixon bent us over for China first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Nixon_visit_to_China

 

Because liberal Democrats could never do anything wrong, right?

Socialists always think they know what something is worth. They always got a trophy when they were younger, whether they won or lost, and their parents and teachers convinced them they are the special, educated elite, able to answer any question.

But I'll go ahead trust in the market's ability to determine what a particular job should pay, based on time tested economic principles such as supply and demand, over your arbitrary feelings on what people should be worth.

Then he's going to war with basic economic principles such as supply and demand, that cause jobs like hedge fund managers to be paid a lot more than burger flippers. Some of us are capable of understanding that a hedgefund manager has a set of skills, which includes education, to put him (or her) in a job that very few people can do, successfully. They deserve to be compensated more than a burger flipper, who requires no skills, no education, and deserves to be paid much, much less.

I'll bet you are 100% in support of illegal immigration though, aren't you? Most people with your perspective are. Let's just invite the rest of the poor 3rd world in to compete with our poor, and then (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about how unfair it is that those poor people have no upward mobility.

Left-wing politics are a joke. Based on ignorance and greed, nothing more.

 

You are making a number of assumptions, the first of which is that we have a fair and free market - "The market determines what you are worth"

The second big flaw in your argument is where you assume that Oligopolies are entitled to control over all resources and mean of production.

The third flaw in your argument is your assumption that "We the People" are not entitled to at least some control over those resources and means of production in "OUR" own country.

There are more flaws but, I will stop here.

 

A "neoconservative" who would vote for a socialist.

The mask continues to slip.

 

There are no neocons running. And I thought racists liked socialism.

Also, you don't seem to read what you're responding to very closely:

 

I'll try and ignore the numbers and entertain your theory. I really will.

 

The theory that Nixon recognized the what is currently the largest commie nation on the planet at the expense of a democratic ally?

 

Is this some variation of a "no True Scotsman"? What "fairness" do you feel is lacking in the current market, and do you have any examples of the ideal you are conjuring in your mind?

Most business in the country qualifies as small business, and most people are not employed by global conglomerates, so your claim that oligopolies control all resources and means of production is dead on arrival.

There were no flaws. Just your common misunderstandings.

With thousands upon thousands of taxes and regulations that affect virtually every business that is operating, I'd say "we the people", by way of Government, do have control over the means of production. That's a large reason why so many jobs have left our shores to go elsewhere. So with that result, what do you do? Double down and claim there wasn't enough control. I'm sure the job providers will understand your position as they relocate elsewhere.

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We didn't have a large trade deficit and loss of manufacturing to China in the early 70's. To say the problem started there seems to conflict with the economic data that I would rather rely on.

 

You right-wing guys just don't seem to understand the basic concept of greed and power and that when someone has an enormous amount of wealth, they automatically assume a position of power.

Power over the American citizens is not freedom, and the free-market is a hoax, it's a scam, to keep you a slave until you turn 70, then collect social security for 10 years and die a slave of the system

I refuse to be a slave.

 

lol, I would end social security in a heartbeat if I could. Left-wing Democrats are responsible for that failed program, as well as the other entitlement "slavery" programs set up in the 30's-60's. Don't blame me for it.

 

He's telling it like it is from the perspective of somebody who doesn't understand how anything works.

Honest question here. What are you worth when you can be replaced by an automated machine that doesn't ask for raises and doesn't take days off?

I think his entire platform and his base can basically be summed up by this picture:




I do agree with you that next year's election will be interesting, though. The two candidates generating the most fervor are the furthest apart. Trump on the right and Sanders on the left. And I think that says a lot about how divided we are as a country. As well as how much people respond to blunt talk and how sick they are of pandering politicians.

 

So therefore it was ok to legitimize a commie nation? Is that your argument?

The economic data would be irrelevant had commie China remained isolated. Instead Nixon decided it'd be a good idea to jump start them.

 

Not at all. My argument was related to Bill Clinton and the selling out of our manufacturing sector and overall job market to China, when he established permanent trade relations with China.

Why are you harping on a "commie nation" when you just finished saying you would vote for a socialist?

 

I guess my point is that it doesn't seem to be completely his fault. Nixon could have completely prevented it himself. Maybe it was a bad idea to legitimize a commie nation in the first place.

I would vote for a socialist if the only alternative was Trump. In the same way I'd rather shoot myself in the head than be dissolved in acid alive.

 

It doesn't matter anyways, because technology is going to progress regardless of what I think I am worth or what you think you are worth.

Technology is happening and there's no stopping it.

Now, in my opinion, that's a good thing, because it means people will have to work less hours, wont have to work as hard for maximum increased production and output, it's a win-win.

Picture this, 100 Million able-bodied workers, out of the work force right now, as we speak.

Real unemployment is at 11% with no sign of anything changing anytime soon.

I can annihilate trickle-down economics and free-market capitalism with two questions.

1. How many able-bodied people that are able to work do we have in this country?

2. How many available jobs do we have for able-bodied people that live in this country?

I'll give you a hint.....The first question has a much higher answer than the second question.

So, basic mathematics will tell you, THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH JOBS FOR EVERY PERSON THAT LIVES IN THIS COUNTRY!

With that being said, I don't agree with the fact that there will always be, regardless how much better things get, a permanent under-class in the country.

And you can actually apply that same formula globally.

We have 8 billion people on the planet, never will there be 8 billion jobs.

Capitalism is man exploiting man

Socialism and Communism is just the opposite

 

This photo will illustrate exactly what I am talking about

 

Lindsay Graham is ground zero for neo cons.