Supreme Court rules against Kentucky clerk in gay marriage case

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  1. 3link

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ucky-clerk-in-gay-marriage-case/?intcmp=hpbt2

    This poor clerk is being PERSECUTED for her religious beliefs. When will liberals realize that public officials have rights, and they shouldn't have to do their jobs if they don't want to?
     
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    Funny thing is Keagan gave it to all the judges all Davis need was three to hear her case and she couldn't even get that. This is one dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Now the tax payers of Rowan county will have to foot the bill for her bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Oh and she has been divorced twice isn't that a sin??? Wonder who signed those marriage certificates lol
     
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    She didn't bring the case, your side did. If your side was worried about money, they could have added a gay friendly clerk at minimum wage, and respected the First Amendments rights of the other clerk at the same time.

    But of course, fascists always want to impose their demands on others, not pay for them themselves the way everyone else does.
     
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    Do you not understand the issue of force? what if this woman was being forced not to issue gay marriage licenses?
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - she standin' up fer what she believes...
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    Kim Davis Standing Her Ground
    September 1, 2015 - “I never imagined a day like this would come, where I would be asked to violate a central teaching of Scripture and of Jesus Himself regarding marriage.”
     
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    Religious belief is the burden of the person holding that belief, who has no special right to impose that burden on others.

    Davis is a government official, exploiting her position of power to block people's access to their government, and to discriminate against them on the basis of religion - their non-compliance with hers.

    Doesn't matter to me what her religious beliefs are - they don't put her above the law or entitle her to discriminate against segments of the public in executing the duties of her office.

    Hopefully, she'll be found to be in contempt of court and those with the power to impeach her will do so.
     
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    turns out this highly moral woman, who objects to Gay Marriage for religious reasons, has been divorced three times and one of her kids was made with a guy she was sheating on her husband with

    what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hypocrite
     
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    She can find a different job if she doesn't want to fulfill the same roles of the job that everyone else is required to do.

    It's no different than a Muslim demanding to wear a veil on a driver's license photo when no one else is allowed to cover their face. No one's forcing them to get a driver's license if they don't like it.
     
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    If an atheist clerk tried to pull this crap and pulled the personal belief card, he would by packed in a box and shipped to political neverland.

    Why does this Christian clerk deserve SPECIAL RIGHTS in this case?

    Love the irony here.
     
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    I beg to differ - it is quite different. There are various exceptions and exemptions made by various countries to allow people to get on with their lives. If I sat at my desk wearing a fedora or a beret I'd be expected to take it off, whereas a Sikh man or a Jewish man or a Muslim woman would, of course, be excused from the general rule of taking your hat off when you come indoors. In the UK - at least - Sikh men aren't even obliged to wear helmets when riding motorcycles or working on construction sites.

    But this was like demanding to be allowed to work at the counter in the butcher's shop but without being required to handle pork - or demanding to be employed by an inn to work the bar but serve only customers who order soft drinks or coffee. There is, surely, a categorical difference between saying "I'll happily do this job if you could just <offer a fish option in the canteen on a Friday/let me wear my veil/let me work late on Thursday and leave early on Friday/etc.>" and saying "I'll happily do some of the work this job entails".
     
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    Kim Davis Jailed For Breaking An Evil Law...
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    Kim Davis Broke an Illegitimate, Evil Law, and God Bless Her for It
    September 3, 2015 - Kim Davis, the county clerk in Kentucky who refuses to issue gay “marriage” licenses, is now in jail. She was summonsed to court and thrown behind bars until she agrees to issue them.
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    What We Learned From the Arrest of Kim Davis
    September 4, 2015 | It is jarring to write the words "the arrest of Kim Davis," speaking of the Kentucky clerk who was remanded to jail for refusing to issue marriage certificates to same-sex couples, but for years now I and others have been warning that committed Christians could soon face jail time in America for holding to our convictions.
     
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    What about this one?

    US mixed race couple denied marriage licence

    Does Kim the Martyr have gay friends who use her bathroom ("They use my bathroom" - what do you want? A cookie?) or are homophobes still a generation away from claiming to have gay friends?
     
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    Granny says, "Next thing ya know dey gonna throw her to the lions...

    Rand Paul on Clerk's Arrest: 'Absurd to Put Someone in Jail for Exercising Religious Liberty'
    September 3, 2015 -- In reaction to the arrest and imprisonment today of county clerk Kim Davis because she refused to grant marriage licenses to homosexual couples, Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said it was "absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberty." He added that the heavy-handed "bully force" step by the state in this case was "a huge mitake" and would set the "movement back" for those trying "to redefine marriage."
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    Cruz on Kentucky Clerk: 'What Happened Today Is an Outrage'; 'That Is Not America'
    September 4, 2015 | "What happened today is an outrage," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) told Fox News's Megyn Kelly Thursday night.
     
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    Guess what? This has nothing to do with Davis' freedom of religion. She has freedom to belief whatever she wants.

    She does not have the freedom to limit or remove the rights of others, and that is exactly what she was attempting to do, which is why she was ordered to give out licenses. She refused those lawful orders. And is in jail now for contempt of court for denying those lawful orders.

    This has nothing to do with freedom of religion.
     
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    Judicial force has many facets... like gays formerly being forced to accept that they could not get married. When a law comes down there is always someone left screaming tyranny! Sadly there is no way to please all.
     
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    I would be behind you on that, but if what was reported is true that she has only been a Christian for four years and those divorces were before her Christian conversion then I would say that her past "sins" are a moot point.
     
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    I love this saying! Where did you come by it? There is much wisdom in the above quote. If it is yours then do you mind if I memorize it and add it to my debate arsenal?
     
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    Amazing coming from another liberal that has gone ballistic over terrorists in gitmo to get their day in court but you are more than comfortable burning this woman at the stake. Liberal compassion is so revealing
     
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    Christianity is still confirmed to be a huge asset to those who understand and embrace it. Unfortunately for the left, they only understand the religion as a limitation or as a rhetorical weapon. Their desire to weaponize the religion for market-based socialism has given them a ridiculous straw man version of it which makes their rejection of it obvious in hindsight.
     
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    Ironic in a thread where the woman in the OP weaponized her religion to deny people their legal rights.
     

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