Well ... if you take a look on ALL the other conspiracy things which too many people believe to be true (in matter of Syria, as well in general), this one here make more sense as much of the "USA and West is guilty for all and everything" BS.
You have to understand Mahran that some members post opinions about things they have no direct knowledge about. I have been to Syria and if you are Syrian then you know a person can walk down a main drive in Damascus and see signs on buildings that read....Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad....and one name I can't remember that was used for the Iranian Qud's Force. All money that comes from Iran Covertly and even some money covertly sent from the Arab's must first go to Syria and Assad where he TAKES A CUT....then Assad diseminates the rest of the Money and sometimes weapons to Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad and they in turn TAKE THEIR CUT'S!!! By the time any money actually get's to the actual Palestinain's who are attempting to rebuild Palestinian Territory INFRASTRUCTURE....well by then so many people and leaders in Hamas or Fatah have taken out their personal monetary cuts it leaves very little left to rebuild!! We had a very nice..."STORE"....on the Syrian/Jordanian Boarder and our..."CUSTOMERS"....could get on CREDIT....very good and double and triple checked by us to work....Soviet Made Weapons. This Operation made sure that before any..."CUSTOMER"....was given any weapons that a very thorough BACKGROUND CHECK was done to make certain that the true and actual SYRIAN REBELS were getting these weapons and not EXTREMISTS!! This worked very well until one day President Obama announced that he intended to get the U.S. Congress to OVERTLY SUPPLY THE SYRIAN REBELS!!! I almost fell out of my chair!!! This was a disaster for our Program and there was absolutely no reason for Obama to go public!!! If we had been left alone to do our work there would not be so many Sunni Extremists in Syria right now. AboveAlpha
Honestly, this makes sense a little bit. If we take a look on the general Arab Spring raising in all countries ... what is for several truther idiots still a US conspiracy ... there were always in majority normal people involved, but everywhere the governments blamed that this is all a Jihadist rebellion! To blame someone to be a Jihadist and reason this with this or that truth or fake is making them a general danger in eyes of East and West! Even Assad supported Hezbollah in Lebanon, it is well known that he and his regime is NOT backing other terrorists, particularly not Al Qaida or any other sort of Sunni backed jihadists. After Gadhafi felt, Assad tried to be smart and didn't want to have the full West against him too after he started to use full power against any opposition. What will be smarter to get a silent acquiescence from the West to fight down the Arab Spring in his country as to fight proofed Jihadist rebels? Look on current situation please: What happened with all the blaming of Assad regime after ISIS entered war in Syria with all these barbaric crimes they do? Is there any news in western or eastern media about the bloody Assad regime as before? No, topic is only ISIS and the idiotic attacks of Turkey on Kurds!
Full agreement! there are many trolls who jerk out their general hate on the West and blame everything what is not fitting in their hate blinded mind as irrelevant western propaganda, it is only ridiculous! Same about these Truther idiots who see behind every corner and news a bad western conspiracy like these chief-trolls who seriously claim that Arab Spring was a job of CIA ... and that alone shows that they do not have any sense and clue.
I would take the occasion to discuss with a Syrian member of PoliticalForum about the reality of the Baath Party in Syria. Is this party still the core of the political power or it is just a facade, an operative arm of something else behind it?
YES! Otherwise there is No Syria. AND YOU EVADE THE QUESTION ABOVE IN BOLD FONT AND RED COLORED TOO How can you not believe a Post Assad Syria will be warlord of ISIS-STAN, AL QAEDA-LAND, ALAWITE-DOMAIN, etc. and maybe some Western defended turf for the Western Intellectual and Democracy but No Islamist People. Ah, FREEDOM. NO Arab nation is ready for it. Witness an Arab standing on their soap box complaining about Israel's government in Israel and an Arab doing the same in any nation of greater Arabia. Who is never to be heard from again? If Arab nations need a "model", how about the Jordan Model of balance and moderation. Jordan gives their citizens the best security and economic existence than any other Arab nation. And they are a monarchy. Remember the assassinated King Abdullah, moderate. King Hussain who really did not want war. And his American raised, Queen Noor Watch for the PBS repeat on her family genome and history. If any nation represents success for the working Arab people in the 21st Century without oil it is Jordan. King Hussain, (blessings be upon him, RIP) was on a late night American TV program? Before Stewart or Colbert. It may have been a Johnny Carson. I can't remember. What I Do Remember is how he told stories of his desires to know his people. So he would leave the palace at night and mingle, incognito. Well his story was being in a Taxi and complaining of the King's management of the nation and almost getting bloodied. He was laughing as he told the stories and seemed like a genuine Human although "Royal". Please answer the Red Font question above and don't tell me what I am saying. Gracias! Moi r > g View attachment 37678 Mahran Do YOU Understand This was the last broadcast of the American News Network! [video=youtube;XEaFLdK_e64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEaFLdK_e64[/video] And Do You Really Understand [video=youtube;Vmc-pEyUHTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmc-pEyUHTs[/video] Never mind, he's a JEW
As I have posted before.....back when the U.S. Invaded Iraq the U.S. and Allied Forces Militaries were being attacked by Shia Extremists from the Syrian side of the Iraqi boarder. This went on for awhile and in a very rare occurance the U.S. Military...not the U.S. State Dept. or U.S. Administration but the U.S. Military issued a DIRECT ORDER AND THREAT to Assad that he had 24 Hours to stop any and all Shia Extremist Attacks upon Coalition and U.S. Military Forces from the Syrian side of the boarder. Assad was ORDERED to either use his own Military to stop these attacks in 24 hours....or the U.S. Military would OBLITERATE the entire area where these Shia Extremist attacks were coming from in Syria. Now this is what seperates ASSAD from other Dictators. Unlike most Dictators who would reply to what they felt was a direct challenge to their rule and manhood.....ASSAD smartly followed the U.S. Military Order....took his military and stopped all Shia Extremist Attacks. Other Dictators who hunker down and become DEFIANT and if anything that History shows us is that any Leader who is stupid enough to become DEFIANT against a DIRECT U.S. MILITARY ORDER AND THREAT....such a Leader or Dictator soon finds themselves DEAD!! Assad smartly heald his ego in check and obeyed the U.S. Military Order. Assad is one slick, shifty and smart SOB and we want him GONE! AboveAlpha
As I understand the message of Baathist, no matter how "not nice" they may have been, it was a message of Pan Arabia. Arabia! Not Shias, Sunnis, Alawites, Wahhabi, etc. It was almost the message Sal al Din might have delivered had he not been a Turk yup a Turk, even in pre Ottoman times, Arabs needed Turks to be effectual And to "encourage" the Baathist attitude of Pan Arabia - Syria and Egypt even "united" for a bit. As the U.A.R. Baathist were not nice to critics and suppressed the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist of their days by brutal method Baathist maintained their nations where Christians were secure, although their ancient Jewish populations were encouraged to leave. The Baathist, although mean, nasty, cruel, "nationalist", maintained a resistance to the Islamist in their nations and held their nations together against various tribe and sect divisions. All those Arab Spring beneficiaries feel the "pain" of the Baathist being taken out and their nations fragmenting. Oh except Egypt via its' military taking over from a democratically elected Islamist. All so confusing Moi r > g View attachment 37679 Allah Too. How can one Ramadan so far north if Ramadan is Late June
The Egyptian Military is given large amounts of U.S. Military Aid as well as Egypt recieves U.S. Aid. There are many Egyptian Military Liaisons to the U.S. Military's CENTCOM or U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND. We KNEW that the Morsi would win the election and we also KNEW that the very first thing that Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood would do is attempt to get all Egyptian Military Leaders to step down as the Brotherhood planned to replace them with Muslim Brotherhood Members which would have allowed then to have the Military Power necessary to fully impose SHARIA LAW within Egypt. We advised the Egyptian Military Leadership to REFUSE to step down....but not take any action against Morsi until the Egyptian people demanded it...and BOY! Did they DEMAND IT!!! We also knew EVERYTHING involved with Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhoods Plan's as they also attempted to seize control of all Media in Egypt. AboveAlpha
So? It would be pretty hard not to know, or connect the dots. America kicked out mean old nasty Baathist Mubarak Democratically elected Morsi had to be over thrown so the Egyptian people could safely be governed by the military. What part don't I have correct. And the Christian communities in Egypt were better off under Mubarak. True?
You hate him because He did what you ordered Him to do? That is because you were hoping He would give you an excuse to take your war to Syria, and you hate Him for fouling up your plan?
Are you able to evidence that claim, Alpha. No, thought not. Just for the record, can you evidence that too? No? Oh well. I see. Well, you know better than the president, obviously. He just reads the daily intelligence digests and formulates policy. Oh dearie me.
We specifically told Mubarak that he should move Egypt toward free elections and that if he didn't the result would be exactly what happened as Mubarak refused to do this. The Egyptian People....did not have any decent candidates thus Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood went out to the poor in Egypt and supplied them with Money and other necessary items and basically bought their votes. Morsi then went and changed the Egyptian Constitution as they attempted to turn Egypt into a Sharia Law Islamic State which was something the Egyptian people did not want. The ONLY way Morsi and the Brotherhood could do this was for them to control the Egyptian Military and since we KNEW what was going to happen we advised the Egyptian Military as CENTCOM and the Egyptian Military are very close. This prevented Egypt from becoming an Extremist Islamic Nation. AboveAlpha
I don't hate the man....but the vast majority of Syrian's do. In fact I kind of admire his ability to hold his ego in check and 99.999% of all Dictators who would be given a DIRECT ORDER FROM THE U.S. MILITARY would refuse that order and as a result the U.S. Military would rid the world of such a Dictator. Assad is smart. He know what he can and cannot get away with. But he really is a vicious SOB. AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - This was a major mistake by Obama and the result was a U.S. Congress that refused to OVERTLY supply the Syrian Rebels. AboveAlpha
In reality, President Assad is not the issue. And no man who loves Syria is going to support the mass killings of Syrians done by the terrorists. A man who loves Syria, would not put all the blame on President Assad when it was US/French/Saudi/Israelis who were assassinating Syrian military, police and civilians to create a civil war. The same technique was used against Yugoslavia. It's called, Action - Reaction and it fools officials as well as the public. If Assad were the issue, why attack the Syrian people? The real issue is Greater Israel. The Israelis covet Syria, and are using their Islamic agents to do the dirty work. Blaming President Assad is just part of the cover story. Alpha claims he respects President Assad, yet he says, "Assad is one slick, shifty and smart SOB and we want him GONE!" Alpha remains an excuse maker for those who want wars.
Yugoslavia and the Serbian ethnic cleansings were well enough justification to send in NATO to stop the killings. As far as Assad....he is a DICTATOR. He does not allow fair and free elections and his Father ruled Syria his entire life and that is what his son intends to do as well. He needs to go. AboveAlpha
If we are that smart, why are we going east toward deserts and hostile Muslims ? we should be heading North and West toeard Europe, Syria ? that's the best you can offer ????
So solly, I no comprehend questions. Thanks for the admissions and confessions. HATO created the situation in Yugoslavia and then used it as an excuse to cause even more harm. They been applying the same plan to Syria. The US loves dictators, and our Presidents hold hands with them, bow to them and kiss them. Therefore, the false accusation that President Assad is a "dictator" is not the real reason for all the noise agaisnt Assad. The real reason is to distract from the Greater Israel Plan.
I find it astonishing that anyone with a modicum of intelligence would advocate taking the same approach to the same problem and expecting a different result. Take for example, Saddam and Gaddafi. Not only that the problem wasn’t solved, it turned relatively stable and secular countries into hell holes where terrorists thrive. Removing a single man doesn’t solve a problem, does it? However, not particularly intelligent people would like western public to believe that removing Assad would somehow result in a different outcome in Syria. It's called insanity.
This is now really impudent to claim that NATO has created situation in Yugoslavia! One has to be totally blinded by the common Anti-Western / Anti-USA propaganda to say such a totally BS and it shows that you have not a clue about Yugoslavia conflict at all! The opposite is the truth, because NATO has to be reviled for it that they have not much earlier intervened properly in Yugoslavia! Really? Even this will be truth, what is nonsense, on the other side should right that being done with Donbass in East Ukraine and is at least done by Russia with Crimean Peninsula! Who says B = yes for Ukraine to split, must say first A = yes for Yugoslavia too and not after it that it is all Western guilt! And Russia does not love dictators? Well let me take a look on the governments of all these Ex-USSR rebublics which are independent and vassals of Russia. Woops! Nowhere any democrativ elected government! No, there is no noising against Assad to be a dictator, because his father was still and the dictatorship is since Syria exists. The noising is because his acting against any sort of opposition in his country and this is not deniable! And well who is again best and only left over friend of Assad aside Iran? Russia! So no wondering about your words here Nothing cant be more far away from truth as this! Sure, Syria and Israel are hostile since ever, no doubts, but the truth is that Israel prefers Assad in full power because this is more safe as some sort of unpredictable followers which are more like ISIS type and who want to make the old propaganda phrase of killing Israel to be more as a phrase! In this matter the claimed shot down IAF F-16 who bombed Syrian 68. Brigade positions is total nonsense aside several details about named to be only ridiculous BS (telling a F-16, but showing a F-18 which is not in use by IAF; telling to use first old AA missile system to confuse pilot before using SA-300 = total nonsense when these older systems are against F-16 not a threat at all and pure tactics of IAF stood against to be fooled this way). True is that Israel bombs from time to time things of Syrian Army but what, when and why? When SAA is losing control about dangerous missile systems, poison gas and other sort of dangerous weapons which can become a threat to Israel if getting in wrong hands! Is this not given, they let these things in Assads hand!
Albath party now have now any power in Syria as before, even there is no any party had power from 1970, all parties was under bath control. albath is a mask for Dictators like Saddam and Alasaad. If you will here Albath members you will think there are very good people but when you will see their actions you will know the truth. Like in Lebanon and in Syria 1981, and now. Albath is long story maybe i will write a new Thread later about this party
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