Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, I filter it for my own household, just left over from when the kids were younger, felt no need to ever remove it, but while I may not like it, I do not think it's the government place to force the prohibition on others

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    Here lets see if you buy your own bs. I am censoring you. From this point forward you may not post again. Lets see if you post again and prove your hypocrisy.
    Dont like porn then dont look at it. No one is forcing you to buy a computer and suffer through the pain of seeing a *gasp* naked woman! Duh duh duh.
     
  3. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    They, the average parent, are not capable of judging rightly.

    I saw a thing on the news the other night showing parents protesting because the government wants to increase sex education in schools. Parents are not qualified and most are not interested in doing so. Even the teachers are saying they are not trained and would look to nurses for the teaching.

    Even if the teaching was up to par, an unacceptable number of kids would ignore it just as they do with many other pleasures.

    Please consider that.

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    Regardless of how many of our children we screw up. Right?

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    Examples please.

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  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not control other peoples children.... I do not want to ban free speech cause others can't do the right thing by their children

    I do not think we should ban guns cause a child might get a hold of them either, same goes for matches, alcohol, knives.... the list goes on

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  5. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Then you do not know how to look.

    You also did not bother listening to what was being said in those links.

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  6. sonofthunder73

    sonofthunder73 New Member

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    I did the same. But I was less concerned with my son looking at a naked girl online than I was with some of the sicko's out there who prey on children. It may not be common, but as a parent that's obviously something that scares me.
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but as you showed, parents are wasting there time and the addiction to internet porn will get many of our children and parents are too into themselves to care.

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    sonofthunder73 New Member

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    DL I think I like what's behind your reasoning in this thread, as a parent. However I think it's the parent's responsibility, not the government's, to raise their children until said kids become the proper age to decide for themselves whether or not to view pornography.

    I am not unsympathetic to what you're saying, at all, but I disagree with your proposition of government censorship.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can sign up for an account

    then select what to block

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    then in your router just add the DNS's to your dhcp server and done
    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    you can either set the local ip of your ISP to update via the router or download a app they provide to one pc

    nothing needs to be setup on any of the other pc's, tablets, cellphones, ect... in the house

    like anything else, there are ways to bypass this, but for most kids, this will be good enough and is easy and cheap to set up

    they will get a message like this when hit such a page, you can change it to your own custom messages too

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  10. Greatest I am

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    Our stricter parenting was once helped by the porn sellers making it hard for kids to access it. They now ignore that caution.

    Parents are fools if they think they can censor their children on their own.

    If that was a viable way to go, we would not be going for censorship.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-23401076

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    Fresh can Cyber Ghost get past that?
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    That and society as a whole not caring for each others children.

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    I guess that you missed that child porn is well censored so censoring is not as hard as you might think.

    Strange that you would resent government leading you when it already does exactly that.

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    All self-centered garbage that shows no social conscience at all.

    You are one of many.

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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Hogwash.

    Provide even one site to make your case.

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    Too late. Censorship is a fact of life.

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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Can`t get out of your self-centeredness I see.

    So much for your social conscience.

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    I agree that you are definitely not your brothers keeper.

    Good example for us all of what not to be like.

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    All I have is a recognition that without controlling the servers, a parent cannot do his or her will in terms of control of what is viewed.

    If parents are not concerned enough to act then that is on their heads.

    We will reap what we sow.

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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's the other way around, things that feel good do so for a reason and it is absolutely absurd to suggest that reason is so we can abstain from them. A person who denies themselves life's pleasures becomes sour and twisted. Hate is, unfortunately, pleasurable and it is the only pleasure "morality" provides, so the prude eventually sees everything in terms of hate, and thus we have the link between hate, prudishness and conservatism. Prudishness is unhealthy and has always been so.

    See, Prudishness becomes bigotry very quickly

    And again

    What was being said in those links was the same old same old censors have used since the Tablets of Narmer (the earliest writings we have from Ancient Egypt) These bemoaned how the youth were completely out of control and society would soon collapse. It did too, 3000 years later. Bushwa squared. The first thing that dictators and tyrants always do is make laws to protect societies "morals". These very quickly become laws to protect from thoughts that might harm us by permitting us to realize how much we're being bamboozled. What we really need are laws to protect us from our protectors, and particularly, those who would censor us "for the children" If you want to turn your own children into guilt ridden neurotic basket cases feel free to do so, but do not tell me that government should force me to do that to my own

    You're the fool if you think you can limit censorshop to just porn . The Roman Emperors once made obscenity illegal, it very quickly became illegal to criticize the Emperor. Once you accept the concept of censoring you have ended free expression of anything in your society, including politics, but then I forget you are conservative and the ending of freedom, ironically in freedom's name, is your underlying goal.
     
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    DL,

    What I said wasn't self-centered, but quite the opposite. Adults should not be censored for viewing legal porn. Once you start wishing the government to enforce moral-based regulations on us, then you're entering the realm of facism.

    I also mentioned to you, that as a parent, I am empathetic towards what you're saying in this thread about looking out for our kids. I just disagree with your method.
     
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    Wrong example.

    ``but prohibition forced on us by the government is a bad thing imo, it ruins more live then the stuff you want to prohibit`

    What prohibition or censorship is ruining lives?

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    You still have not followed the links and are not on subject at all as not one of those links speaks of censorship.

    You have no clue and are speaking to the hand till you educate yourself.

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    Notice the "green". There are thousands of cheese pizza websites on the dark side.

    One was just recently busted in Israel.
     
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    Thanks for acknowledging your hogwash and showing that censorship is working.

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    funneling billions into gangs, breaking up families, cost to imprison people for long prison sentences, the militarization of our police force

    the list goes on and on, prohibition causes more harm then good
     
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    with this we agree, the government should not be our parents.... this is a free country, adults can make their own choices

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    Obviously there are some things best kept from children for a time. Kids often benefit from that kind of structure and control in their developmental years, just as they do from healthy forms of discipline. I think that today's computer technology has a tendency to suck people in and turn them into hopeless addicts, so that it's best approached by children with a good amount of metering and control provided by adults.

    Of course, the exact effects of high tech on youths will vary from case to case, but I feel that it's good practice to limit access at an early age in all cases. I had too much access in my youth, I'm not afraid to say..
     

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