US Complains As Russia Bombs its Terrorists

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  1. MrFirst

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    US Complains As Russia Bombs its Terrorists

    The New York Times in its recent article, “Russians Strike Targets in Syria, but Not ISIS Areas,” attempts to frame Russia’s recent actions in Syria as dishonest and dangerous. It reports:

    Russian aircraft carried out a bombing attack against Syrian opposition fighters on Wednesday, including at least one group trained by the C.I.A., eliciting angry protests from American officials and plunging the complex sectarian war there into dangerous new territory.

    This of course would only make Russia’s actions dishonest or dangerous if groups trained by the US CIA were in fact the “moderates” the US claims they are. However, they are not, and thus Russia’s actions are duly justified as is the expansion of their current policy.

    There Are no Moderates, and There Never Were


    For months now, after years of headlines confirming the US has been covertly arming militants in Syria for the purpose of overthrowing the government in Damascus, a narrative revolving around tens of thousands of these militants “defecting” to Al Nusra and the so-called “Islamic State” (ISIS/ISIL) has been peddled to the public by the Western media and US politicians to account for the apparent failure of America’s alleged policy of creating an army of “moderates” to both fight ISIS/Al Qaeda and the Syrian government.

    In reality, from the beginning, there were never any moderates. Starting as early as 2007, years before the war in Syria began, the US as a matter of policy had long since decided to intentionally fund and support the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood – for all intents and purposes the political wing of Al Qaeda – and begin arming militants affiliated with Al Qaeda itself.

    Read more here: http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/01/us-complains-as-russia-bombs-its-terrorists/

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    With One Bombing Run Russia Gets the US to Acknowledge CIA’s “Covert” Regime Change Forces

    Published October 1, 2015 | By emptywheel

    For some time, a number of us have been tracking the collective forgetfulness about CIA’s acknowledged covert forces on the ground in Syria. I often point back to the day two years ago when Chuck Hagel confirmed our covert efforts in Syria in a congressional hearing, as well as Senate Foreign Relations Committee member frustration with their inability to get details on the acknowledged covert ops (that already numbered in the thousands, according to Tom Udall) there. Jim and I have written a slew of other posts about CIA’s covert forces there (one two three four five six seven are just a small sampling).

    More recently, Adam Johnson caught NYT and Vox pretending CIA’s efforts don’t exist at all.

    This past week, two pieces—one in the New York Timesdetailing the “finger pointing” over Obama’s “failed” Syria policy, and a Vox“explainer” of the Syrian civil war—did one better: They didn’t just omit the fact that the CIA has been arming, training and funding rebels since 2012, they heavily implied they had never done so.

    To be fair, some intelligence reporters have done consistently good reporting on CIA’s covert war in Syria. But the policy people — especially the ones reporting how if Obama had supported “moderate” rebels sooner — usually pretend no one knows that Obama did support Qatar and Saudi-vetted liver-eating rebels sooner and they often turned out to be Islamists.

    The selective ignorance about CIA’s covert operations in Syria seems to have been eliminated, however, with one Russian bombing run that targeted them.

    read more here: https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/10/01/with-one-bombing-run-russia-gets-the-us-to-identify-cias-covert-forces/
     
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    How pathetic is US Policy in Syria? After 4 years of supporting opposition, theres 4-5 moderate rebels fighting in Syria.

    In 6 months in Eastern Ukraine, Russia managed to form and equip 30,000 professional fighters.

    Watch and compare!!

    [video=youtube;EwAhyBJiag8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwAhyBJiag8[/video]
     
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    I agree there are no moderates in Syria or the Middle East. They're all religious psychopaths living in the 7th century.

    The world would be better off without Islam.
     
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    The lies and disingenuous propaganda coming out of the Obama's mouth, the State Department, the Pentagon and the mainstream media trying to prop up know falsehoods such as the "Moderate Rebel Myth" is scary.

    Without a fair and free media there is no democracy. If folks knew what was going on they would not stand for this sickening foreign policy.

    We (along with our partners Saud, Turkey and others) tried to use Islamic extremists (Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS and others) to topple a regime we did not like in a foreign country in complete violation of international law. We armed these terrorist nut jobs to the teeth and in doing so caused the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade.

    Now the pathetic lies are coming like flies in order to try and cover the stench of this big pile of dung.
     
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    I don't hear Obama complaining about the innocent Christians the American armed and trained rebels are killing in Syria. So Russia is killing rebels that are killing innocent Christians. Why wouldn't Obama be happy about this being he is a Christian himself? Wouldn't want to see a stop of the genocide of his own faith stopped even if it is by Russia?
     
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    Yes well they will complain. And tell lies also. Lots of lies, for lying is their native language. It’s obvious that the ZOG mafia have facilitated and funded and enabled this entity we call ISIS. ISIS are their hired hands and mercenaries on the ground, ostensibly given the responsibility of causing a faux civil war in a previous stable and secular nation. I guess you could loosely call ISIS the enforcers of ZOG.

    The shabbos goyim puppets in Washington and London will say they want to fight ISIS when the opposite is true, they want to enable them in all and every way, not stopping short of giving them free passage to and from the US and Europe.

    The media and body politic merely use ISIS this end as a bogeyman, and on the Syrian end, as rogue mercenary army with the directive of toppling Assad.
     
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    Assad will fall. Russia knows this. Assad doesn't have the number of troops it till take to out last this. However Russia will be there to replace him with their own lacky. That's what is eating Obama. He lost the long game in Syria already.
     
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    Why would you? Are you labouring under the idea that the US is controlled by Christians and that it's Christians that fund Presidents?

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    I don't think so. ZOG have a monopoly on that trick ^^.
     
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    It’s going to make the US regime look like utter fanboys if Putin and Russia deal with this quick smart.
     
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    It's a big if though..... When Russia dealt with terrorists in a Moscow theater and a Beslan school, they ended up with a theater full of deal theater-goers and a school full of dead pupils. When Russia dealt with Chechen separatists (they did not like separatists then, you know ;) ) they ended up with hundreds of thousands of dead Russian civilians... Never mind Russian Afghanistan... What can possibly make you believe this time is the charm for Russia.


    PS They are not even targeting ISIS or Al-Qaeda. They are deliberately attacking American-supported rebels which does make the current US government look like "Nobel peace prize winners". That does not make Putin look any less of a thug than he really is though
     
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    Islam is the reason you have soap to wipe your butt with.
     
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    According to Russia's government propaganda. All other sources (including independent russian sources) agree that Russia bombed territories not controlled by ISIS.

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    Right.... 1500 years ago Islam invented soap and zero. Zero is the number of Islamic inventions ever since they invented zero
     
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    I like Vlad. He's alpha. Unlike Obama and Cuckservatives also.
     
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    I don't like Obama, he is an indecisive spineless incompetent wishful thinker. That does not make me like Vova (not Vlad, these are different names in Russian :)), Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler or any other bloodthirsty medieval "alpha"-dictator.
     
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    Easy tiger. I'll grant you Stalin, he never earned a single one of his medals. And Pol Pot did go on to make those handy dried noodles.
     
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    I honestly can't wait 'till the West falls back into the dark ages.
     
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    :)The point is being an alpha does not make anyone less of an as$hole... You are not jealouse of alpha-men, Jack, are you, you don't imagine them to be some kind of superior human beings you wish you could some day become, right? :D Don't disappoint me please, say you don't :D
    Seriously though, I don't even see Putin as an alpha man, I think he has serious complexes and is in urgent need of a good shrink....Dr. Freud would work :D
     
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    On the contrary. I admire them for the logical reason that they make the best leadership material. It's pragmatic.
     
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    Well, it's actually quite obvious, it will happen when it is overrun by hordes of Islamists... probably soon enough. It won't make Islam look any more civilized or progressive, the Islamic world will remain in dark ages just like it is now, it will merely bring the Western world to its level.

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    the direction of leadership is very important in leadership, don't you think? Hitler was a natural-born leader and an alpha-male, if you get my drift....
     
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    Fine by me. Either way, you guys lose. :)
     
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    Who in the world wipes their butt with soap?
     
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    I suppose..... You won't win either though, will remain medieval barbarians at best or be nuked by Israel/US at worst... And mark my word, there won't be any virgins waiting ;)

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    Can't you f8ing quote correctly, is it that hard? I did not say that, the forum Islamist did.
     
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    Plus Bo - I am pretty alpha myself bro. You don't see me cucking for anyone and fighting for the insane rights of 57 made up genders.

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    Perhaps it is a very chosen™ kind of soap... :grin:
     
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    Is this the same US that is being taken over by Hispanics? Don't make me laugh!

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    Er, clean people?
     

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