Obama: Mass shootings are 'something we should politicize'

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Why not trot out the 'swimming pools kill people too' cliche while you're at it. So your answer is complacency and a dismissive shrug of the shoulders? You have a serious problem in America, and it's about time you owned it.
     
  2. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Your 'freedom' is illusory and exists for only as long as your government sees fit. This 'freedom' is also a horribly cynical propaganda ploy especially so when we have seen how much America respects the freedom of people in other nations which it seeks to control. You have no idea what the reality of true freedom is.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    If you need a gun for self-defence wherever you go I suggest you're living in the wrong country.
     
  4. Pred

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    And if the slums of Central America follow their people up here, and it spreads, you WILL need a gun wherever you go at this rate. And when that time comes how loud will the elite be living behind their walls and compounds. Sorry just watched Elysium again last night and realized just how possible a future like that is. Not the space station part, but the part about how everything can get out of control once you open up the flood gates. Then it's too late.
     
  5. superbadbrutha

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    Why was gun control started in the first place? Was there law and order when everyone could carry a firearm on their hip? I am not trying to be funny or smart I am just curious to know why everyone is allowed to walk around with a gun on their hip.

    It just seems to me that if everyone has a gun there would be no breaking of the law, then why doesn't everyone carry one.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gun control started to keep guns out of the hands of freed blacks. Next set of major laws for fear of Mobsters. Next failed law was for fear of scary looking rifles (Clinton). Fear is still the main motivation of gun control advocates and control of citizens for illusory security is the main goal.
     
  8. superbadbrutha

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    So gun control was created just to keep guns away from black folks.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube_share;ipLqZUJqUHo]http://youtu.be/ipLqZUJqUHo[/video]
     
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    I would rather put criminals who break the laws into prison and KEEP them there than to have them running amok in the United States. I, and people like me, are not the problem! We don't go around killing people, destroying other people's property, etc. If anything, we should certainly round up all illegal alien criminals and get them the hell out of here immediately, but the rest should be sent to prison.

    But criminals in this country have little or no fear of the law or of the consequences of their actions. In countries where law enforcement is swift, harsh, and enduring, criminality is much more subdued. Example: the old story about Vlad the Impaler's "Gold Cup": http://dracula.cc/vlad_iii_dracula/tales/ . That's a portrait of him below.

    My hallmark slogan for years has been, "Whatever you tolerate you get MORE of." If we didn't tolerate all these crimes and the criminals who commit them, we wouldn't have nearly the problems that we do.

    And, one last time, Snake -- "Guns don't kill people... people kill people." The Islamo-Nazis cut Lee Rigby's head off with a knife while he walked along a London street! I'll bet if poor old Rigby had had a Webley revolver with him the outcome would have been entirely different....

    [​IMG] ... Any country that cannot control crime effectively is led by weaklings and fools....
     
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    I'm sure every little girl in the Muslim world will know the meaning of true freedom. What a crock of (*)(*)(*)(*) you spew.

    My government would like nothing more than to disarm Americans so they can end the illusory as you call it. But for now We have some way to gain it back. I will take a slim chance for freedom over sold out with the rest of the sheep anytime.
     
  12. truth and justice

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    No he was not. "I'm on the side of the officer, and generally don't agree with the black lives matter protests"
     
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    Absolutely sensible gun control is necessary, it is the insane bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that liberals come up with that drive responsible people nuts, like registering every bullet.
     
  14. superbadbrutha

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    Do you think that guns would stay under better control if every gun had to be registered every year?
     
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    It is not about Obama's political leanings. It is about the fact that the American public is perfectly analogous to the donkey where you first have to get it's attention by hitting it with the proverbial two by four.
     
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    And what exactly would you consider sensible gun control. Yeh I know, hitting what you aim at. Ha,ha,
     
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    Which weapon ...

    As usual, when I observe the American debate about weapons from the Italian perspective, I note that US thinkers tend to generalize. Do you think that what has happened in US it's impossible in Italy because we've got strict regulation about carrying weapons? Not exactly ... In Italy it's easy to own an arsenal and to carry around rifle guns simply obtaining a hunting license.

    But ...

    First point is that in Italy it's extremely difficult to obtain a license to carry around a conceived weapon [and this makes already a great difference], then ... try and get close to a school with a rifle gun in Italy ... Americans tend to wait for directives to follow, Italians escape, period. You can carry all the weapons you want, you will enter an empty school! Decades of Red Terrorism and Mafia have developed real antibodies, I would talk about a genetic code, to react to similar threats here.
     
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    Preserving the nation and the U.S. Constitution against freedom hating leftists IS doing something positive.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    "You" haven't preserved the first amendment so what is so special about the second
     
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    You mean the First Amendment that the Left's leadership has been crapping all over for the last seven years? Yeah that's precious too; despite what the Left-ALLIED Mainstream Media, Barack Obama, and Dem Party leadership in general thinks about it.
     
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    Equating rational gun control measures with hating freedom is just plain ignorant.
     
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    Except that hating freedom really is the reason that most leftists are effectively pushing for the elimination of the private ownership of guns; which is what -- collectively -- they are looking at as their ultimate end goal just the way in which similar radical leftist movements in Great Britain and Australia ultimately neutered the rights of their own populations.
     
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    I know politicians would love the revenue, and I have no faith in the usual government cluster (*)(*)(*)(*) of ever doing an efficient job. Enforce the laws now, we don't need anymore layers. The numbers of those convicted of straw purchases can be counted on your fingers. It is another pathetic example of government failure
     
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    Enforcing the laws we have, that would be a start, and the pathetic outrage from Obama of more laws needed, well you have to ask yourself why didn't Obama do anything when he had full control of the house and senate? The truth is, Obama is a lying panderer, and nothing more
     
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    You don't have a problem registering your car every year, why not guns it would stop a lot of illegal ones from making their way onto the streets.

    Most criminals and gang bangers are not committing crimes with registered guns they purchased.
     

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