Africa doesn't have the educational infrastrcture that The West does. Africans who benefit from great educational structures, have similar intelligence levels to Westerners.
That's correct. They don't seem to mind black nationalists like the NBPP or Mexican nationalists like La Raza and Mecha.
I think we agree on most things. One thing I would stress however - that you did not quite seem by buy into - is the impact of environment. Think on the implications of the fact that the wiring of your brain is physically altered by the stimulus you receive and that this is proven fact and not speculation. You can have the most superior genetic potential in the world. If you are left in a room by yourself for the first few years of life and only fed - not receiving any linguistic stimulus - YOU WILL NEVER be able to grasp complex language .... ever. Let me give you a few more anecdotal examples. In Romania (at least back 20 years ago) kids started calculus in grade 9. Does this mean "Romanians" are genetically superior to the USA ? Not at all. It means they have a more rigorous education system w/r to math. Same for Chinese/Japanese. Do you have any idea how hard these kids work at a young age ? Of course as a whole they are going to score higher. Put a normal black kid in the same environment and they will be smarter too. Sure there are some genetically "dumb" pardon my french people. For the rest it is primarily a function of environment. There are also a "few" whose brains happen to be wired for science and they happened to get the proper stimulus. These are very far and few between. What is interesting about these folks is that while they are very smart in one area. They are very stupid in another. This is how it works. If you are really good in one area (that area of the brain stimulated) you are likely to be equally stupid in other areas that due to lack of stimulation. I would adjust your nature/nurture equation to something more like 30/70 if not 20/80. A have a good friend who's brother is a Nuclear Physicist, given this relationship I knew most of the dudes in the department of Physics- all Prof's who I was on a first name basis with. One of the fellows seemed fairly well rounded (probably had other issues I was not aware of) there were two ( my friends brother and this other fellow) who were complete social idiots. Shockingly so. If the conversation was not nuclear physics you might as well be talking to a wall. Also very rude, arrogant, condescending with delusion's of grandeur complexes. They thought because they were good at physics they were also good in logic, rational arguments, political thinking and so on. This was anything but true. These guys were complete idiots with the most inane ideas in some cases.
The details of their "tactical" switch and efforts to present themselves as something other than hateful bigots (they figgered the t'werent gettin' no wheres with the truth of their bigotry) can be readily found on sites like stormfront. By changing their terminology and placing a thin veneer of reason over their hatred, they believe they can convince their white brothers and sisters to "protect the race" from the ravages of the darkies.
Actually no, I don’t underestimate it at all. As I’ve alluded to, I would attribute approx 20% of it down to that. That’s not insignificant. However, I perhaps see it through a different prism to you? For example, we could say that a given land and/or country is an “environment”. That would be true and fair. But what would those lands be without the given race that inhabited them? They’d simply be land. It is the people of that given land that breathe life into the land and make it an ‘environment’. And the environments that were created throughout time were themselves but an expression of the racial ‘spirit’ of each aka their genetics.
These differences can even manifest in the involuntary laws of attraction. While most white men will marry within their own broad race, it is not uncommon to see white men with Asian g/f’s etc. But it is more rare to see a white guy with a black female. The reason is that involuntary law of attraction. Basically, Asian women and generally small, petite, and feminine. This is something that males like. African women are larger and more masculine, something that is not generally held as attractive.
Well, you are the one needing two posts to defend your "I'm not racist, but..." stance to your supposed "enemies" on this forum, all the while decrying how badly white people are being treated in the US today. I think I'll let that speak for itself. - - - Updated - - - I'll give you a little tip; talking about how the white "race" is more advanced and more intelligent because of better genetics does not make you seem like LESS of a white supremacist.
There's this cool documentary called Reclaiming the Blade about European fencing and martial arts. The documentary makes the case that because Europeans focused so heavily on gunfighting after a certain point in history, their totally legit hand-to-hand martial traditions were left to dwindle until people forgot that they had ever existed. Digging up old fencing manuals, some of which contain some beautiful art, and trying to rekindle these lost arts, is the closest thing to a positive example of "white pride" that I've ever seen. "Hey, we had martial arts of our own, and martial artists, too!" It has the advantage of being factually correct. Other than that one example, though, the white pride people seem to just be wrong about everything, especially their science. Genetics don't work that way. Inherited traits don't work that way. Human interaction doesn't work that way. The whole concept of 'supremacy,' subjective to begin with, doesn't even work that way.
What IS a 'white pride people'? How do you define one? How do they differ from someone of African pride, or Japanese pride, or Jewish pride?
So, to reiterate my position on this; There are supremacists in this World. They do exist, and their supremacy is ethnic/racially based. Id like to say they had no power and were therefore no menace. But the opposite is true. The true racial/ethnic supremacists not only have some power, they yield great power, and internationally. To me, a supremacist driven by ethnic and racial lines would wish to subjugate, dominate and probably even plunder and kill other races. My ideology includes none of those objectives, in fact I believe in the inherent right for all races to live peacefully and preserve their own heritage, culture and people. I dont think that makes me a supremacist of any kind.
these "white pride folks" tend to be more about hurting other people, then helping themselves. most of the White Power folks I talk to on the internet WANT the Government to give them their own homeland. cause they know they can't build one on their own.
Here's what I wrote in my own words. I cannot speak for strangers online that you speak to. "The true racial/ethnic supremacists not only have some power, they yield great power, and internationally. To me, a supremacist driven by ethnic and racial lines would wish to subjugate, dominate and probably even plunder and kill other races. My ideology includes none of those objectives, in fact I believe in the inherent right for all races to live peacefully and preserve their own heritage, culture and people. I don’t think that makes me a supremacist of any kind."
I don't know what the first one is and I must have looked at the other maybe 4 times in my life. It's the internet. Ever looked at the comments under U Tube vids? Don't forget, what you see is not always what you get. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...isis-white-supremacist-and-jewish-lawyer.html "Joshua Goldberg posed as an Islamic radical and allegedly encouraged a terrorist to attack on September 11. That’s just one of his online personas though. When Joshua Goldberg wasn’t posing as an Islamic radical, he was pretending to be a white supremacist—and is accused of impersonating a Jewish lawyer.."
someone who thinks one racist is superior to another, and who thinks people of different races should be treated differently simply because of their race
Though this hate isn't always universal. I know a lot of racists (usually American blacks and whites) that consider themselves inferior to the Han and Japanese.
How does this alleged superiority manifest, give examples? Otherwise it's just a word. Give examples of how you believe they believe people should be treated different simply because of race?
they believe, for one, that black Americans should lose the right to keep and bear arms. they believe Jim Crow was a good thing. they believe racial discrimination in the worldplace, schools, housing, jobs, should be legal. they believe we should kick out non-white citizens and limit our immigration to only white people.
Okay, that’s a good few things. So let’s take them one at a time. First one. “they believe, for one, that black Americans should lose the right to keep and bear arms.” Okay, for the sake of the story, let’s first assume that ‘they’ are like some sort of huge mass, one dimensional and with no variance. Let’s also assume that this ‘they’ are collectively lobbying for this ^^. That’s two big assumptions, but let’s go on. Question. Is it your position that ‘they’ allegedly suggest this based entirely on some unfathomable crazy hate for the colour of a black person’s skin? It’s an important question. Or is there something else?
People whose whiteness is one of their favorite things about themselves? I mean, literally speaking, I think it just means people that take pride in being white. Which is not necessarily or inherently evil, it's just that there are so few examples of it doing anything positive for anybody, particularly its practicioners. I suppose it has a lot of it has to do with already dominating a culture and economy -- being proud of that, given the exploitation of everybody else that it took to make that happen seems ... I dunno ... cruel? And disingenuous.
I'm British, I don't know enough to comment on him. But fair enough, if you don't want me to address the first point you made and others, that's fine. - - - Updated - - - What do you mean by 'their whiteness'? Do you mean their skin tone?
