gun control myth

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by stoptheguns, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. stoptheguns

    stoptheguns Newly Registered

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    I am sick of hearing how these morons we send to washington are telling us they are doing everything they can, a lie. The biggest one is the president himself, he has a pin and could enact a ground shaking end to some of the worst guns on the street but he will not. He and other want the crime to continue to fund the cause that will never get resolved....

    Today by 12 noon Obama could sign an Exec Order banning the import of Assault pistols, ie any pistol that has a detachable magazine not in the grip...A simple EO no one could stop him and it would by the end of the day stop all these AK47 pistols, MP5 pistols and other assault pistols from flooding the street, these are cheap overseas assault weapons legal to be imported.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798eNj0s0Ls

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6jKnenCzy4

    so WHY is nothing being done????? answer if the fix the problem then who in the world will they ask for money next election!
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Please point out the crime statistics involving "assault pistols."
     
  3. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    .......as if there is no way they could build their own assault pistol or SBR.

    Even so, I'm not seeing news story of these guns being used in crimes and they make very good home defense guns.

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  4. stoptheguns

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    you are missing the point the point is they say their hands are tied and there is nothing they can do, the 5.56 ammo ban they proposed in 2014 was based on the high sales of assault pistols. I am saying they do not want to ban these guns if they did they could!
     
  5. Regular Joe

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    First, it's not a "pin". It's a "pen".
    I don't get it with these "assault pistols". I thought hard about getting a Draco. That's an AK-47 with a short barrel and no butt stock. Reading up on it, I see that most people regard it as very cumbersome, and hard to aim with any accuracy.
    So I looked at 9mm carbines on the AR platform. The really glaring problem with those is that no-one is making a magazine insert that works right every time, all the time. You maybe could run with the Mech Tech carbine upper, but those things get very spendy, very fast. It makes better sense to stick with an AR carbine, if you're already established with them.
    Anything in an MP-5 is far from "cheap". Get that malarky outta' your head right now.
    Let's do look at crime stats regarding these guns you're so excited about. Oh. Dey ain't none.
    As far as "cheap import" stuff. Right now, I know of two domestic producers of AK's. One is Arsenal, and the other is whoever is providing PSA with their AK's. It's not very difficult.
    I forget where, but I read a thread by a guy who bought an AK parts kit, and made his own receiver from a shovel.
    The real myth is more about the lie that gun control is about decreasing crime. Our Gov. is simply NOT addressing that. That's OK. People are not stupid. Ever increasing numbers are insisting that they be allowed to defend themselves. Concealed carry is becoming popular almost faster than gun makers can produce concealable firearms for those who want them. There's a waiting list for the Glock 43 in almost every place that can get them.
    A recent Gallup poll found that 51% of American adults believe that the solution to gun crime is to arm more honest Citizens. Do a little research, and find that every month, a new record is established for the number of Brady checks done on new gun purchases. Continue your research. Call up any local instructor in your area, and find out how long you'll have to wait if you want to take a CCW course.
    The stark truth is that the Obamanation isn't attacking armed Americans because he doesn't want to start a Civil War.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    are you aware that most olympic target pistols would be banned by such a stupid law

    and what makes a pistol with the magazine well forward of the trigger more "deadly" than a more conventional placement.

    how many AK style pistols are used in crime? Obama cannot overturn Heller even if the banoid organizations and their minions want it
     
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    hate to tell you but the constituion prevents obama from doing what you claim. he can not make laws, it is called seperation of powes, congress makes laws exec off ie presidnet enforces laws and the courts rule on laws.
    sorry you never learned that in grade school
     
  8. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    I live in Western Massachusetts in the spring, summer and fall and Massachusetts is a very heavily armed state especially in areas like mine.

    Everyone...and I mean EVERYONE is armed as many people hunt and have a large number of shotguns, rifles, handguns...etc....as well as AR-15's and AK-47's.

    Because of this we have virtually no crime.

    Most crime occurs in large cities where the population is not well armed and the people who do tend to be armed are criminals.

    But in rural areas where I live it is well known you do NOT come into my town with a bad attitude seeking to do some criminal action.

    Thus the criminals stay away.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see we have another uneducated gun hater in our midst.

    With a stroke of the pen drugs, alcohol, and murder were outlawed. How did that go?
     
  10. Xenamnes

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    Politicians possess limited power. That is a simple fact on the matter.

    There is nothing they can do that would yield meaningful results. Prohibiting the legal ownership of firearms does nothing to stop the continued illegal possession and use of firearms.

    And the proposed prohibition was based on a logical fallacy. The claim was that the M855 round, and only the M855 round, could penetrate body armor when used in a pistol, while all other 5.56 and .223 rounds in existence would fail to achieve the same results, due simply to a microscopic measure of steel incorporated into its construction. This was blatantly false, and rejected for such reasons.

    Indeed they cannot. They do not have the legal authority to do such.
     

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