Houston LGBT nondiscrimination ordinance rejected by voters

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...on-ordinance-rejected-by-voters/?intcmp=hpbt1

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Opponents of the ordinance, including a coalition of conservative pastors, said it infringed on their religious beliefs regarding homosexuality. But in the months leading up to Tuesday's vote, opponents focused their campaign on highlighting one part of the ordinance related to the use of public bathrooms by transgender men and women that opponents alleged would open the door for sexual predators to go into women's restrooms....................................

Democratic Houston Mayor Annise Parker, who is gay, and other supporters of the ordinance had called this "bathroom ordinance" strategy highly misleading and a scare tactic.

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first, the ordinance was mislabeled because it was not a "non-discrimination' rule at all. It was about allowing sexual predators into bathrooms with little girls.

This is the same mayor who attempted to silence pastors from preaching from the Bible about gay-sex and how it is not permitted.

IMO, this will not go away and liberals will use the terms "bigot" and "hate" on people who are protecting the children. We've arrived at a sad time when protecting children is bad but encouraging sexual deviancy is good.

 

The U.S. Supreme Court could elect to take up the case.

 

What bathroom does this transgendered person really belong in ?

 

As much as I'm for LGBT rights, I understand their concern on the one particular ordinance. Some creepy guy whose not actually a transgender could pose as a woman just to go into the women's bathroom and do who knows what.

 

Ok, let's go with this such horrid thing you have in your mind that some guy is going to dress up like a girl on go into the women's restroom. Don't women's restrooms have stalls? What is some guy going to go in there just to listen to a woman take a (*)(*)(*)(*) or (*)(*)(*)(*)?

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Funny thing is, the ordinance in question had almost nothing to do with bathroom usage.

The campaign opposing it was pure demagoguery.
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...-campaign-s-scare-tactics-need-to-6465444.php


As Richard Carlbom with the pro-ordinance Houston Unites campaign told the Chronicle: "Nothing in the equal rights ordinance changes the fact that it is - and always will be - illegal to enter a restroom to harm or harass other people."

If this ordinance posed a real danger, opponents wouldn't have to find some future parent to feign fear of becoming a victim "one day." They could surely find a real victim in one of the other cities that passed anti-discrimination ordinances decades ago.

Last year, the nonprofit, progressive website Media Matters tried to find them. It surveyed more than a dozen jurisdictions with equal rights ordinances, asking officials from states as diverse as Iowa, Hawaii, Maine and New Mexico for any evidence of the kind of abuse or assaults that the critics in Houston are predicting.

The officials reported none.

For those of you who don't trust Media Matters' research, I contacted several officials myself, and they verified their positions. One of them was John Elder, a Minneapolis police spokesman whose state of Minnesota began prohibiting discrimination against transgender people more than 20 years ago.

Elder said sexual assaults stemming from the 1993 law were "not even remotely" a problem, and that a police department inquiry found "nothing" in the way of such crimes in the city.\

 

The people spoke. Sorry to the freakshow.

 

Time for the government to stop trying to force sexuality matters on the people.

 

http://www.dailywire.com/news/330/university-toronto-dumps-transgender-bathrooms-pardes-seleh


when even a liberal university in a liberal country understands why it's never a good idea to let people just "claim" the gender they want whenever they see an opportunity, what is wrong that America can not see it is a problem


The issue I see is in middleschools across the nation.... where young boys are VERY curious about females.

 

And yet ... this has never been a problem in the countless jurisdictions that already have similar laws.

Why should I give the imaginary fears of conservatives more weight than the actual experience of real people?

 

ummm, it did happen in Toronto. Why do I have to wait for a pervert to victimize my daughter, under the guise of "political correctness" and "open-mindedness" before I'm allowed to object to a rediculous loophole that perverts like the guy in my link took advantage of.

 

Yes, one incident in one city. This is not a "problem" -- it is an incident. And guess what? What the students did in Toronto is ILLEGAL -- just as it would be ILLEGAL without unisex bathrooms.

You imagine "perverts" around every corner, when actual experience shows this simply isn't a problem. Why should your overblown fear outweigh the need of transgender people to pee?

You seem concerned about transgender people in opposite-sex bathrooms, but your status quo simply has those transgender people, instead, using the bathroom of what THEY consider the opposite gender -- and thus, the bathroom where the people THEY are sexual attracted to go.

You're basically saying "Gay woman (who has switched to male gender) in men's bathroom -- bad. Gay woman (who has switched to male gender) in woman's bathroom, just fine." How is that logical? Which is more likely to result in "peeping" or other sexually-driven behavior?

Bottom line, you're being illogical and inconsistent.

 

Wait a minute, hold on here. Aren't we seeing tons of stories about how every college woman is raped - twice? And what about the war on women? What's happening to all these women's rights we hear about almost daily? Also, liberals seem to want to ban anything that "could" cause a problem, but not this. We see "select" groups all calling for safe spaces they can run to when they feel the need to; where does a girl run to now?

In the name of political correctness liberals are willing to ignore all of the above.

 

lol... how quickly the story changes from "it doesn't ever happen" to...."well, it doesn't happen that often so it's not a big deal"

except I've shown it happens.... just because you don't percieve it as a problem, doesn't mean it's not a problem. I can imagine pedophiles don't see a problem with being scout masters either....


I'm not for making loopholes in laws to benefit perverts, I want to close loopholes.

 

Exactly, this person undergoing female to male transition clearly does not belong in the womens bathrooms.

 

Because everyone is counted the same?

 

WTF does any of that have to do with letting transgenders use a bathroom to pee?

 

Do you support the concept of grown men using the same bathroom as 12 year old girls while the little girls are in there with him?
Same question about showers?

 

I never said "It doesn't ever happen". I said it's never been a problem. Try actually reading what I write.

So ... guy walking through crowd with mirrors on his shoes, looking up skirts. Happens occasionally. Shall we ban crowds? Guys walking through crowds? Skirts? Or is such an incident so occasional that all you do is punish people when they get caught, like we do NEARLY EVERY OTHER CRIME ON THE BOOKS?

You're not closing a loophole, as I pointed out. You are instead putting people who are sexually attracted to their own gender, in their own gender's bathroom. If your concern is "perverts" -- i.e., creating sexual situations in bathrooms -- that's a bigger risk factor than letting transgenders use "opposite sex" bathrooms.

 

Because quite frankly and obviously..."transgender" doesnt change a thing. You are simply letting Men in with the Women and girls under this ruse that Transgendered somehow changes this. It doesn't. They are still the same Sex that they were at Birth, and their Mental Condition does not need to be humored by anyone, especially if someone feels their child may be at risk.

The sooner the left realizes that it is pure fantasy...an impossibility to actually change gender...the better off we'll all be. Have any fantasy in your head that you want to have...but society has NO responsibility to play along with it.

 

You're basically saying "Gay woman (who has switched to male gender) in men's bathroom -- bad. Gay woman (who has switched to male gender) in woman's bathroom, just fine." How is that logical?

Either way that women is going to sit to pee. But that's not the argument anyway - that's your strawman.
We're talking about people who haven't changed a damned thing, as intact as the day they were born, saying they feel wiggy "I have a right to use whichever restroom I choose to today". Kinda like Bruce Jenner - he still has his junk and he claims to still be attracted to females - so because he feels like wearing a dress he gets to use the woman's restroom. How is that logical?
Man with penis intact (regardless of how he claims he feels) , sharing restroom with female children. They can't make a penis. They can't pin the dick on the bull dyke.

 

How can anyone even try and defend allowing grown men into the same bathroom or shower as little girls?

What has happened to morality and protecting the children?

 

It's the new America where concepts like morality get scoffed at. Some of us however still have a strong moral center, and we vote as the OP showed us. No thank you to the normalization of mental disorders and deviant sexual behaviors.

Notice how it's always revolving around sexuality wiht these people? The left, obsessed by where they can put their genitals. I note that noone is calling for Multiple Personality equality. Perhaps we should start issuing those people Multiple Drivers Licenses and Social Security cards too. nah, of course not...no person is half a dozen different people...so we dont humor it. Broken brain.

However, the left and their sex...lets humor the Guy who thinks he's a girl...thats totally legit!!!

You want to dress up like Cinderella at home, and those who love you want to play along? Hey have a blast.

Call me when the Chromosomes change.

 

if it happens... that IS a problem.... maybe not for guys wanting to victimize women.... or children.... but it IS a problem.


The left has no way of deciding which special interest group to protect anymore.... do you protect a woman's right to pee without fear of a man looking through the crack in the stall "pretending" to see if the stall is occupied.... when in reality, he may just be peeping her....

or do you protect the right of a man to enter a women's showerroom so he can refresh his mental spank tank

 

Guys like Bruce Jenner could victimize women. Guys like Rue Paul could victimize women as well. Have you noticed that it's the guys that wish to be allowed to use the women's restrooms. I don't believe I've read a story where someone born female is suing to use the men's room.