Jeb Bush: I side with Carson over Politico

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  1. LeeroyHim

    LeeroyHim Banned

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    http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/06/jeb-bush-i-trust-ben-carson-over-politico/
    Even Jeb Bush is sacrificing his campaign even more for Ben. I agree, the book is clear, Politco lied. I don't see anymore discussion about this.
     
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    How do you not see more discussion about this? The book made a claim that Ben got a full scholarship to West Point, and politico interviewed West Point staff and found the claim to be false. Do you believe that politico completely lied or that the West Point staff lied?
     
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    Ben Carson supporters got caught with their pants down and now will stoop to the lowest levels possible to try and save face.
     
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    One theory is because they offered him a free ride he cosidred it a scholarship, but for one Im not a supporter and for two they did lie even regardles sof that why, here's why:

    Political said that Carson said this in the title, then said it was his campagn

    The campagin came out and said politco lied about that.

    Political also claimed he applied and implied he attended both of which aren't in the book.

    Now you can take the other stuff as is if you want but no doubt Politico lied to make this worse than it seems but that's all I'll say on the matter until more info is released.
     
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    This is what he wrote in his book.

    "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point," Carson wrote. "I didn't refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn't where I saw myself going. As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn't really tempted. The scholarship would have obligated me to spend four years in military service after I finished college, precluding my chances to go on to medical school."

    Politico clearly lied. Piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) liberal media. Nothing more absolute scumbags dont even deserved to get pissed on. Those in the media who attempt to defend Politico knowing this are also pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Just saw about 12 news whatevers pulling their news stories from google news and other places already.
     
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    But isn't that the problem with the media these says. No one checks. 12 new agencies publish what Politico said without even bothering to check Carson's book.
     
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    From what I understand West Point offers a scholarship to anyone that gets accepted. I am not sure about that but big deal it isnt. Carson had the grades and could have been accepted. In his mind perhaps this is what he was referring to. I do not doubt the media is lying. This is just a red herring either way.
     
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    Nah Jeb Bush is helping kill his campaign, alright with me. before the truth articles started coming out, he defended Carson immediately and got steam rolled, which he won't recover from regardless.

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    yep and of the 300 artciles regurgitating I saw 12 pull their articles back.

    I wonder how many will repeat this or the other story saying Politco lied? Poor jeb though, got steam rolled for defending Carson before the truth came out.
     
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    Ben Carson, a grifter on the wingnut welfare circuit: How he just gave away the act

    .........A candidate does not take time off from the Bataan Death March that is a modern presidential campaign just to read a few pages of his book to a bunch of elderly wingnuts in the back corner of the Hackensack Barnes and Noble. Especially not when he is in second place in the polls, nearly even with the frontrunner and far ahead of the rest of the pack. And he got there with hardly doing any traditional campaigning. Why stop now?

    The shock would be a lot easier to take seriously if a) Ben Carson had not already shown himself to have a grasp of reality best described as “tenuous” and b) if there was not a whole conservative ecosystem of publishers, TV and radio producers, think tanks, con artists and assorted other flimflammers all dedicated to making conservative politicians and media figures rich(er) through a combination of generous funding by wealthy benefactors and sucking money out of the pockets of rubes inclined to buy mail-order survival seeds as a hedge against the imminent Communist takeover of America, all because Fox News told them Obama is coming to steal their guns. It’s a perpetual motion machine of grift. Ben Carson is simply cashing in.

    One need only look at the Republican candidates from the last two election cycles to see the cycle of grift at work. There was Ron Paul and his newsletters promising to show you how to put all your money in gold in advance of a worldwide economic collapse that never seems to arrive. (But please don’t cancel that subscription!) There was Mike Huckabee, recently busted for hawking a cinnamon-based cure for diabetes to the elderly diabetes-prone conservative base, using his 2008 campaign to land a talk show on the Fox News channel. There was the grandmamma of them all, Sarah Palin, who famously quit the governor’s mansion in Alaska after running for vice president in 2008 because she could make way more money babbling on Fox News occasionally, selling books defending that oft-endangered celebration of Christmas, and starring in reality shows.

    Aside from showing up at the debates and sitting for interviews, Carson has done very little campaigning. He has not had to put forth much in the way of serious, detailed policy proposals, and he is still polling around 20 percent (the next-closest candidate in most polls, Marco Rubio, is hovering around 10 percent). Why shouldn’t he take advantage of his newly-raised media profile to sell his book and maybe dredge up some interest in his entire literary back catalog? The more books he sells, the more he can raise his speaking fees after the campaign by promoting himself as a best-selling author. The more speeches he gets highly paid to give, the more talk radio and Fox News see him as a valuable commodity to bring on as a pundit or even to give him his own show. Sure, he is already wealthy from his successful career as a neurosurgeon, but isn’t the essence of the capitalist system that conservatives revere to make as much money as you possibly can?

    http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/ben...elfare_circuit_how_he_just_gave_away_the_act/
     
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    If this had been the only 'stretch' of the truth, it wouldn't be such a big deal; but he stood up in a presidential debate a flat-out lied about his relationship with Mannetech. The stories about his younger years are fabricated too, because Carson is pathological liar.
     
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    Salon really? A poster quotes his book directly showing Politico lied and you pull out that hack site? Anything to get Hilary out of the news i guess.

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    You might want to look at context of the question involving Manetech.. Clue ... what was the previous question asked of him.
     
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    A person who plagiarized a book is not an honest man.
     
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    A person who would lie about how she got her name is not an honest woman
     
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    We have proof and direct quotes from books and liberals on this form still think hes lying, that is uh, sad.
     
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    No they dont. They simply have poor ethics and believe that if they keep repeating it the stupid people will believe it.
     

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