Ben Carson’s allies defend West Point: He got an offer, did not apply

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  1. LeeroyHim

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...st-point-story-he-got-an-offer-did-not-apply/
    And having access to the book, I can verify Politico straight up lied, though the liberal media is going to fight multiple articles with the truth coming out. Mn Politico I used to read you all the time now I don't even know. For those who don't know Politico is the one who ran the original accusations, which are false.

    Accepted, attended, and applied are not words in any of that part of the book. I mean the tiotle of the Politico article was already suspect due to saying Ben Carson admitted it and then went on to say Ben Carsons campaign said he lied. Lawd!
     
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    Mensa wanted me to join but I just threw that crap in the garbage..

    Of course I can't prove this, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen..
     
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    Well, if Carson was able to so soundly remember this in his book, then how come he can't remember this when asked about it. From the politico article, this is what Ben Carson's staff said in his defense:

    “Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett wrote in an email to POLITICO. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qkG1cI00

    So is Ben's senility acting up? Is he not able to remember if he was offered a full scholarship anymore? I don't trust a single thing about Ben in regards to his claims of a full scholarship offer if he himself can't even freakin remember what he talked about.
     
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    So he cant remember every word from when he was 17. He never said he applied to West Point that was a lie
     
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    The book says he never applied and that he never accepted, both were part of the lie with Politco along with politcos headline being BEN CARSON himself said he lied, when they went on to say it was campaign and that title article has been regurgitated by liberal media in mass.

    All other details are irrelevant. His campaign even said they did not say it to Politcio and said that they screwed up the info they gave them.
     
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    I agree that they lied about him applying to West Point. Politico definitely lied.

    But I don't let Ben Carson off the hook. How can he no longer remember what he had written in his own autobiography? It's just another one of these political tactics where they try to dissolve the issue by simply stating they don't remember. It's a load of crap. If he genuinely can't remember what he recalled so soundly in his autobiography, then he has serious senility issues.

    Edit: I'm sick of this crap. So now their campaign is also backtracking on the very email they wrote? This is just a bunch of cover-up nonsense.
     
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    Here is a dirty little secret - most (or at least a lot of "authors") don't write their own books - especially when they're public figures at least...

    They're not writers...
     
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    Uh what are you talking about?

    The lie by Politco is that he was not offered a free ride, that his campagin said he lied, and that he applied and attended.

    All of those are lies, so that's the whole Politico article, what else is there to discuss? Also they did not backtrack and even posted the original email. The guy who used the Email to make the Politico story screwed it up.

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    This is also true he had a Ghost. But still this is irrelevant.
     
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    I'm here to judge Ben Carson's character. It's a real slimy tactic to say that you can no longer remember a previous claim that you made. So far the email from his campaign states that he can't remember anything besides that he talked with the general about his ROTC performance.

    So as it stands, I take it to mean that Ben Carson is currently not even able to remember if he was offered a full scholarship or not. Remembering in your own autobiography and then suddenly no longer remembering is a sign of untrustworthiness. I'll wait for now and see if Ben decides to properly answer this question or not.

    I simply want to know if he was offered a full scholarship by the general or not. I hate the answer "I can't remember."
     
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    Uh he directly remembered everything Politco said he lied about and so did the campaign. WTF are you talking about?

    I mean ebn even in recent interviews and in ANOTHER book said the same thing that he was offered a free ride. his story is consistent and has not changed.
     
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    You can't prove a negative. There is no way, that I can think of, for him to prove that he didn't apply. If he did apply, there would records out the as* to show that.
     
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    His book said he did not apply as he didnt think the military to be his calling. Politico lied. He is not changing his story Politico did
     
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    It is because if you're writing MY story the way YOU portray it and if I don't have time to sit down with you and dictate it it becomes your story not mine, however if I had the time to dictate my story then I would write the book myself...

    I suppose if you're bent on writing a book, don't allow someone else to do it - do it yourself...
     
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    Maybe if he racks his brain hard enough, he might even recall that it was actually General Custer that offered him the scholarship
     
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    Well I'm satisfied. Ben spoke on the issue.

    "I don’t remember all the specific details. Because I had done so extraordinarily well you know I was told that someone like me – they could get a scholarship to West Point. But I made it clear I was going to pursue a career in medicine. It was, you know, an informal ‘with a record like yours we could easily get you a scholarship to West Point."

    from: http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro

    I'm glad that he himself cleared up what he meant by being offered a full scholarship. It is clear to me now that this is a complete smear campaign from Politico. I hate doing this, but I now apologize for jumping the gun. I will wait until I get further sources confirmations before jumping to conclusions about candidates.
     
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    Thar's not the lesson here, all politco is accusing Ben of was refuted by ben on every cylinder, he said all he had to remember to prove Politco was lying. And it was matched by the book.

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    Now to wait for the barrage of regurgitating liberal media websites to slow down so they can be replaced by truthful articles.

    This is the most disastrous attack Politco could have done, it backfiring could cause them issues.
     
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    I believe Politico.
     
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    MSN.com went from having an article headline that said he "lied" to one that says he "could have been clearer". That's about as much of a concession from a left-wing source that you could hope for. The left is never wrong, of course, because their Marxist sociology professor in Junior college said so.
     
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    Heck you believe Hillary :roflol:
     
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    You have so much to look forward to. I am 64 years old, and I can tell that you are a 20 something, because you are using your recall ability of a 20 something to judge a guy 3 times your age. I can guarantee you that things will fog up about the past when your in your 60's. The book was written 20 years ago, and there is a huge difference in recall for a person when they're in the 40's as opposed to their 60's
     
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    If the book was written 20 years ago and he was in his 40s he would still be recalling something that happened 20 years earlier and using a ghost writer its no surprise it may lack some clarity.
     
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    Exactly. There are things I remember about my childhood as if it were yesterday, and then there are things I question my experience about. Some of the fierce battles I was engaged in in Vietnam are like that
     
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    Some times I think back on my memories of being in the Marines back during Nam and think to myself did that really happen or am I now imagining some of it.
     
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    Would an interview of Carson by Brian Williams be considered ironic?
     
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