What Happened Before the Big Bang?

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps it exists in a continuing state of expansion and contraction.
     
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    [video=youtube;sbsGYRArH_w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbsGYRArH_w[/video]
     
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    Sounds like we might be the result of someone spilling a glass of milk.
     
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    That just moves the problem back one step, because the question then becomes where was God before s/he created itself?
     
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    I suspect that your #2 is incorrect and that the universe was created from the division of Nothingness into two Somethings.
     
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    It presently is an accepted theory...
     
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    Christian doctrine is very clear; there was never a time before God. Neither the Father, nor the Son, nor the Holy Spirit were created.
     
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    OK, if you believe that you have no problem with this topic.
     
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    Before the Big Bang, there was pie and ice cream. If you disagree, feel free to prove me wrong.
     
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    There are the hypothetical "tachyons" which is still being argued. Then there is "Quantum entanglement", which was called "Spooky Action at a Distance" by Einstein, or to put it plainly, the ability for particles to transmit data instantaneously over great distances.
     
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    I guess things just repeat again and again.

    dead end - big bang - the start of life - dead end - big bang - the start of life ....


    OP please do not forget to give me "the best answer" prize.
     
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    And theories are based upon repeatable experiments that yield the same results each and every time.
     
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    Indeed. If I recall, Einstein was wrong about the state of quantumly entangled particles being determined before being measured. I am suprise by those who hold Einstein up to an almost messianic level when he was just a fallible human. He was no doubt brilliant but he did not bat 1000.
     
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    But....What happened before that?
     
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    Einstein called the entanglement 'spooky action at a distance.'
     
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    And your point is?
     
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    He had no explanation?
     
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    He did have a hypothesis, that being that the state of a quantum entangled particle was determined before being measured, and he was wrong as it has since been proven that the state of the particles is determined by the very act of measurement itself.
     
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    Was it the double spit experiment that proved him wrong?
     
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    Bell's Theorem, and subsequent experiments proving that theorem, proved Einstein wrong.
     
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    That depends on what you mean by "data". You can't instantly send a message (say like a Tweet) using quantum entanglement.
     
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    I think in part. I would have to watch the episode on NOVA again to refresh my memory. If I recall correctly Einstein coined the term "spooky action" as a way to scoff at the hypothesis placed forth by another physicist that argued that the state of entangled particles is decided by the act of measurement. Some info that is in line with what the NOVA special had is in the link below.

    http://www.cnet.com/news/researchers-demonstrate-quantum-entanglement-prove-einstein-wrong/
     
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    Correct,you're talking about quantum entanglement, however it is also used to describe anything that doesn't jibe with math ...
     
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    And he was totally wrong with quantum entanglement...

    We can already teleport particles....
     
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    As I said, I'm talking colloquial. The exact definition goes something like this;
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    "Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when pairs or groups of particles are generated or interact in ways such that the quantum state of each particle cannot be described independently—instead, a quantum state may be given for the system as a whole."​

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    This is to say, that regardless of the space between two particles, plancks or millions of light years, the two (or more) particles instantaneously act as one.
     

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