A Message Of Support For Muslims After Paris Attacks Is Lighting Up The Internet

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  1. Guey

    Guey New Member

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    I don't disagree. I would prefer we pull out of the Middle East altogether. But I also think we should not be accepting refugees into the U.S. either. We shouldn't be meddling in their affairs at all. We're already about $20 trillion in debt for one thing, but morally I don't feel we have the right to also.
     
  2. bclark

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    Maybe you should show me the magical place on earth where Muslims live in peace and harmony with everyone? Stop with this cultural relativist junk. The 14th Century called and it wants its convert or die religion back.
     
  3. bclark

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    Personally, I tend to trust the foreign news with respect to our country more than the US. http://de.msn.com/ (A German based division of MSN that isn't always as concerned about hurting our feelings tends to be fairly open about the facts is one of my favorite outlets. If you're lucky, you can find a translation.)
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes on the foreign media. Now my wife is from Thailand and I spent 6 years there stationed with the Army. We watch a lot of news on Thai TV over the internet. They cover a lot that is not reported on in the media in the states. I do not speak German, but I do Thai and Lao.
     
  5. Alwayssa

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    China with a ethnic group called the Hui (pronounced "Way"), Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia, generally, and a few other places. There are Muslims here that live and work with Jews and Christians, and yet, have no problems with them. Even where I live, a mosque is less than 6 blocks from a Jewish synagogue and the Imam and Rabbi have regular, monthly meetings with Christian pastors on religious tolerance.
     
  6. bclark

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    Sorry, this is just not factually accurate. It appears that Muslims have made their presence known in China, and it isn't really well received. So shocking they wouldn't like Islamic terrorist massacres at train stations.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...5840a4-1aa7-4bb6-bc63-69f6bfba07e9_story.html
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    How many Paris-like attacks would there have to be in a year before the French very seriously consider that idea? I'm thinking 6 per year and they start to "go FDR on the Muslims". They had Charlie Hebdo, and now this attack, so they are 1/3 of the way there already. We don't know what it's like to live like that, as France has around 6 million or so Muslims living among them.
    Today: the French are jumpy as false reports of gunfire send them scrambling: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...victims-isil-suspects-Syria-arrests-live.html

    How much longer will they put up with this?
     
  8. FreedomSeeker

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    The AMISH....it's always, always the danged Amish!

    - - - Updated - - -

    ....with religion. Showing how dangerous reality-avoidance (religions specialize in this) really is.
     
  9. FreedomSeeker

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    Invisible friends are clearly dangerous, as they can get people to justify genocide even. Modern Secular Humanism (Dawkins, Harris, Dennett) has no invisible friends, so it's much better and safer for the world.
     
  10. Guey

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    The old show, I believe from the Discovery Channel, Amish Mafia backs up your assertion. Illegal buggy races, people getting roughed up by enforcers, and more! Thank goodness we have reality tv to let us know what really goes on in the world.[
     
  11. DavidMK

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    Plenty of radical Christians. The difference is that they don't have as many targets being in a Christian majority nation and their crimes are usually whitewashed. Honor killings become crimes of passion, shooting up places of worship become hate crimes, mass shootings become mental disorders, etc. Unless they bomb a hospital or government building it's never terrorism.

    Rhetoric is a powerful thing, just relabeling something can create a radically different view of that something.
     
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    Ok if you get to the essence of this problem, youll understand who is the real bad guy, which is a generic white guy....

    PARIS BOMBS - consequence of REFUGEE CRISIS

    REFUGEE CRISIS - consequence of ISIS

    ISIS - consequence of IRAQ power vacum and support to the opposition of Assad

    IRAQ wars and funding - consequence of US failed petro-dollar / one world / monopoly strategies

    We have to accept the facts, we have to stop living the lies. Those muslims which lived for years in NY or London have all the rights, and yes poor (*)(*)(*)(*)ing people for being subject to this terrorist crap, which was manifested very far away due to some overly-greedy ambitions. Sad.

    War is business people, essentially war is business, and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Even if their is justice in whatever is being done, it is business and that is the main motivating factors, which allow unilateral militaristic action that leads us to ISIS. Watch this video, a suggested way of building transparent world politics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxVEfBFgTtM
     
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    Yes, fear makes people do stupid things.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    Progressive sources like Huffpo will always throw out an article like this after something like the Paris attack happens. It helps their agenda when we see Muslims as victims, so they have to remind us of this.
     
  15. cameron

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    What I support is that every nation has the right of having, keeping and making respect their sovereignty.

    Then, what the heck is the West doing in those countries?

    Who the heck is the West to intervene and change the way of life of those countries?

    What happened in France is a respond to the attacks of the West to Middle East countries.

    Right now, France has sent 10 war airplanes to bomb ISIS places.

    Look at it this way. The West pretends to destroy the culture of the Middle East inhabitants. The inhabitants -because their different culture- suffered of bombings and destruction of utilities, cities, killing of hundreds of thousands, with a cost of billions of dollars.

    Middle East inhabitants organized themselves and at the cost of hundreds of dollars, they fabricated house made bombs, acquired a few riffles, ammunition, and caused terror in a city of Europe. Here in the US, Middle East inhabitants used "utility knives" to surrender commercial airplanes and cause great destruction.

    Why the West invests billions of dollars to attack their territories while the Middle East spends just a few hundred bucks when they contra-attack in our territories?

    The worst of all, is that they will survive, they will organize themselves again, and again, and again...

    The best solution is to leave them alone and recognize that the oil is theirs and start to pay what they want to charge per barrel of oil.

    We are not the good guys of the story, forget about it.

    Stop dreaming crap, stop stealing their goods.

    If they want to kill their own, that is their political and social internal problem. Here in the US when whites killed blacks like crazy, when blacks were even burned alive by white fanatics, when social laws were crap for 200 years from Independence day up to Martin Luther King, no country in the world intervened inside our frontiers to change those abuses made by people with the consent of the US government.

    What the heck are we doing over there?
     
  16. Doberman1

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    That's all good points. However, the oil producing countries had a good 15 year run until the bottom fell out of the market with the new technologies that came online such as the shale and fracking. So the oil prices are really self-regulating, adjusted by the market trends - supply and demand. Secondly, the interventionism in the Middle East came out of the concern raised by the Bush admin. that the oil money revenues cannot fall in the hands of the terrorists or evil regimes (and nuke allegations etc.). The Democrats second this undermining benign traditional regimes orthodox in comparison to the Western superstates, all in the name of democracy to replace them with states run by terrorists, one by one. So now the circle closes and oil revenue falls directly in the hands of the terrorists, which is what was to be avoided in the first place.
     
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    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    Time to interject a lick of common sense here. Islamic extremism is at the very least approved of if not out right supported by the majority of its followers. For every Christian extremist there is at least 1000 examples of Islamic jihad. The religions are not even comparable in the least. The only religion that is fundamentally at odds to the point of open warfare with nearly every religion in the world is Islam. There is no excuse for this backwards 6th century barbarism that brought down the most prolific and educated area of the world with its backward warlord pedophile worshiped leader. The Middle East used to be a center of learning and advancement until Islam came. Islam should be banned everywhere. End of discussion.
     
  18. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Muslims have been the victims of decades, if not centuries, of Western imperialist ambition. We have robbed them, gassed them, drawn arbitrary borders in their lands where none existed and exploited their resources. Reverse the situation and see how you might feel. It might be worth reminding you that America too was once under British imperialist rule. Didn't you also rebel, or something?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You couldn't be more wrong if you tried: http://regentsprep.org/regents/global/themes/goldenages/islam.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
    http://islamichistory.org/islamic-golden-age/

    "A little learning is a dangerous thing" (Alexander Pope), and exemplified by your post.
     
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    Lol...We get your "point". You can't be bothered to inform yourself and prefer to keep spouting nonsense.
     
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    These people think that history started on 9/11. They don't have a clue about what the West has been doing in the ME since ww2.
    If the Muslims had been doing to the West what we have done to them, every single American would likely be a suicide bomber aching to blow up the entire Muslim world by now.
     
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    The thing this is, there's plenty of quotes in the bible that get ignored by Christians, so why should we assume that Muslims are all in lock-step with THEIR book when it's clear that many followers of other religions, including the major one here in this country, are not. It's like you think only Christians get to approach their religion superficially and non-Christians are all die-hard fanatics, or fanatics-in-waiting.

    I don't care if every radical muslim died in a fire today. I care that stupidity and ignorance is going to rope in the ones who are not. And I'm mad when double standards are employed to do so.
     
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    No not with religion...
     
  24. FreedomSeeker

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    Yes, like believe that a magic carpenter will magically give them "eternal life" in some invisible magic place in the sky if they give up science and reason and believe in his magic, so they can avoid the bad place that they fear.
     
  25. FreedomSeeker

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    Religion teaches the hatred of non-believers (Jesus/Allah will see that non-believers are tortured, because they are so hateful, etc.), a essential part of the ideology of the enemy we are fighting right now.
     

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