Bernie sanders: Climate change is directly related to terrorism

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  1. Grizz

    Grizz New Member

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    .. is probably pretty well informed:

    ..the Department of Defense referred to climate change as a ” ‘threat multiplier’— because it has the potential to exacerbate many of the challenges we are dealing with today – from infectious disease to terrorism. We are already beginning to see some of these impacts.” Those threats are outlined in a report titled “2014 Climate Change Adaptation Roadmap.”

    Department of Defense, Adaptation Roadmap, 2014: The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability. These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently‐stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and condition that foster terrorism.


    My view is that Bernie definitely stretched the previous reporting, but not by much.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except for passing false information like we are seeing these things now. Also, it never occurs to the true believers to actually read what they post as bolded above.
     
  3. jackdog

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    Wonder if ol bernie ever thought about how energy poverty which is directly related to green energy policies is related to terrorism? I suggest bernie research the Granger causality between oil prices and the economics of a region.
     
  4. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    First, I have no idea what Penrod posted. Second, I wasn't responding to his/her claims, I responded to yours, which, obviously, you can't defend because they're complete BS.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sander's statement is absurd.
     
  6. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    Here's what I have difficulty with, these GW radicals, terrorist apologist, Islamist sympathisers seem to think because some people don't have food & water, or enough of it, everyone should be streaming to help them, not defeat them. Frankly, I could care less if every terrorist on planet died of dehydration or starved to death. In fact, I'd help in that cause!.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    In other words you are now admitting to failing to understand the context of the thread and instead chose to randomly flame what had been posted without any attempt on your part to gather what was actually being discussed.

    Great job on ruining your own credibility.

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    So the military professionals at the Pentagon are identifying "absurd" threats to this nation?
     
  8. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    LOL..before handing out judgements on credibility I suggest you earn some. You haven't.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic coming from someone who rushed to judgement without bothering to acquaint himself with the context first.
     
  10. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    No, I judged your post for what it was. Pretty basic.
     
  11. Wake_Up

    Wake_Up New Member

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    You are wrong.

    That brief enough?
     
  12. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for disqualifying yourself from any further meaningful participation on this topic.

    Have a nice day.
     
  13. f_socialism

    f_socialism New Member

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    That post hardly qualifies as meaningful participation. Unintended comedy is always the best.
     
  14. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The irony is amusing!
     
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    The only thing changing in the Middle East is the growing population sharing the resources, which still has never been a named factor. Political(dictators,ruling monarchies) and theological(Islam)oppression are by far the elements contributing to poverty and dispare. You allow them nuts to govern recourse rich lands like the us and it would not take long for the us to become a pathetic third world country. Similarly, liberal theology is getting us there.
     
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    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    It's my thread, sparky. Get a clue.
     
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    So you think ISIS formed as a response to a water shortage? This is akin to that Obama Statesman saying something similar a while back. Okay, then why don't we send the army known as the Red Cross and send them water and supplies, etc? Something tells me they'd still kill the "infidels" who try to help them.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Weather and climate change are two different, albeit closely related, sciences. Global warming, for example, can create colder weather in some global locations for example.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and you disqualified yourself in the OP since the Pentagon agrees with Senator Sanders whereas all you have are partisan reality deniers for "support".
     
  21. Hoosier8

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    Cold, hot, rain, drought, just about everything is being attributed to global warming.

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    The military will reflect the government's agenda, no matter what. They do what they are told to do.
     
  22. Grizz

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    No. But it is a contributing factor, and, depending on the area, it could easily weigh in heavier than others.

    No. What is your reasoning behind your response?
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    That is correct and increased snowfall in Antartica is also a result of global warming. People might not think that global warming would cause more snowfall but it does because it creates more evaporation from the oceans that turns into snow near the poles.

    A problem for many is that weather is local while global warming is planetary and they don't seem to understand the difference.
     
  24. Derideo_Te

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    The military doesn't know which government will be in power in the future. The Pentagon report that Senator Sanders quoted had nothing whatsoever to do with current politics. It was a long term threat assessment so that the military can prepare for future eventualities. That part of their job is entirely nonpartisan and always has been because they don't get to decide policy that will suit themselves.

    The Pentagon is well aware that in the event of disruptions in oil supplies that can impact their mobility. They have also learned that is one of their major vulnerabilities because defending fuel supplies is expensive in terms of both manpower and money. So reducing their dependence upon something that they don't control is a very intelligent decision.

    The same applies to fresh water supplies. And when there is a lack of water people will start to fight over who owns the land. The rationale for fighting is irrelevant since the underlying basis is what matters which is who controls the remaining natural resources.

    Senator Sanders and the Pentagon are adults who are pointing out this is the future reality that they, and We the People, must be prepared to deal with. If we fail to prepare we will be caught unawares and will suffer the consequences of that failure to plan appropriately.

    FYI the military has only been successful at stopping terrorism 7% of the time. The best way to defeat terrorism is via police and intelligence work.
     
  25. way2convey

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    Do you have a reading disability? I debunked that argument in my original post. But whatever, you're just stuck on "S".
     

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