Trump stands by claim American Muslims celebrated 9/11

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    No one is making that claim. What we are saying is, if there really were thousands upon thousands cheering in Jersey, how is it that every shred of evidence has been erased from every source on the internet? Even conservative, anti-Muslim sources have lost this supposed "footage." It all disappeared overnight and it can't even be accessed on Wayback Machine and other digital archives. Even sources like Breitbart are saying that Trump must have been mistaken. Have the people who scrubbed the entire internet gotten into their personal memories as well?
     
  2. Ockham

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    Everyone could see Palestine on Youtube.

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    Ever been to Jersey City?
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Was Trump watching Youtube whilst the Towers fell?
     
  4. yardmeat

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    Hm. Strange. The conspiratorial puppet masters that erased the footage of Jersey from . . . well, everywhere decided to leave the Palestine footage intact.

    But in all seriousness, Trump said it was happening here. In the U.S. In Jersey. If had had claimed it was happening in Palestine, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Trump is over exaggerating on the number of Muslims he saw dancing and celebrating in New Jersey. From what I remember from the video it was closer to a dozen Muslims celebrating.

    But there probably were thousand of Muslims across America who were celebrating on 9-11-01 and for weeks after.
     
  6. Ockham

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    Dunno - maybe he was watching Fox News and was in Jersey City.

    [video=youtube;KrM0dAFsZ8k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k[/video]
     
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    If you are going to lie, it is more believable to tell very big lies.
     
  8. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The important question being: why doesn't he just own up to his mistake instead of repeating it?
     
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    He is mad man. Hillary is better choice..
     
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    Ah, so he was only "over exaggerating" by several orders of magnitude . . . in other words he was lying.
     
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    Yep, and the Muslims weren't celebrating the Paris terrorist attacks at the football stadium in Turkey either. Why----they wouldn't do that!
     
  12. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down."
     
  13. yardmeat

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    The important question being: why doesn't he just own up to his mistake instead of repeating it?
     
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    No mistake...he claims to have WITNESSED it. He's a liar...
     
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    It takes awhile on this video to get to the part where they are condoning the attacks of 9-11, but it is clearly in this video.

    [video=youtube;W5BtQgTGOI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4[/video]

    Trump was not exaggerating.
     
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    Your (*)(*)(*)(*) is tiresome.

    We've established that there were, in many locations (including jersey city), muslims celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 9/11. There's videos to prove this, there's articles from various news outlets proving this.

    Now, none of this proves that Trump was there, in person, watching this live. However, it makes it impossible to justify the claim that he's a liar (you've produced zero evidence that suggests he's lying). Clearly, he very well could be telling the truth. Now, you refuse to think for yourself (despite your name) and will never admit that there's even the slightest possibility that trump is telling the truth unless we produce a video of trump, in jersey city, holding up a newspaper with the date visible, with thousands of celebrating muslims in the background (that you can count of course), and a team from CSI Cyber to validate the video.

    We all know this, we also know how this makes you look when you resort to this type of behavior.
     
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    Where'd he say that?
     
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    Ok - if it was going to happen it would have been in Jersey City. See, I've lived in this state a long time... if someone other than Trump would say that, I'd believe it.... dunno about thousands, but the view of the WTC from Jersey City is spectacular.


    Is this finally the statement the far left progressives are going to hang their hat on to get rid of Trump? Sounds like it.... until video shows up, and it might, that supports his statement.
     
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    If he believes what he is saying, then he's not lying.

    If he personally knows that he's not telling the truth, then that meets the definition of a liar. For example, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both confirmed liars.
     
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    Please point to the minute mark, because I've been going through the video and it doesn't support your claim. There are these two guys . . . how is it "not exaggerating" to equate this with "thousands upon thousands."

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    If you'd prefer to believe that he is incompetent, that works for me too.
     
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    The video might resurface. The Washington Post said it aired on M-TV. I saw the video and I didn't watch M-TV back then. I stopped watching M-TV when they started showing music videos that weren't rock n roll and started showing commercials.

    So I can't say exactly where I saw the video, CNN ??? Fox News ??? or on the internet ???

    Doesn't really matter, I saw the video so Trump isn't lying. He may have the numbers wrong, big deal.

    Every time the left tries to bring down Trump, his numbers go up. Hillary and the DNC are more scared than the RNC.
     
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    Please link to the Washington Post saying this. Or has that evidence been mysteriously removed from the the internet as well?
     
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    Obama is incompetent.
    Trump seems to have been very successful in the private sector and seems to be very successful right now running for the GOP nomination. And Trump isn't even a politician. He's doing something right.

    In my life time this is the most interesting and entertaining run up to any Presidential elections I have ever experienced.
     
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    What Trump said he saw I also saw on TV. You didn't see it in MSNBC.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Trump's success in the private sector has been aided by handouts. Plus, you are being inconsistent. You say Trump is competent because he is the current frontrunner in the GOP nomination, but Obama is incompetent despite actually having won both a nomination and a presidential election. What a double standard.

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    And yet it has mysteriiiiiiiously disappeared without a trace from every corner of the internet. Fox can't find it. Breitbart says Trump got it wrong.

    No, we didn't see it on MSNBC. We didn't see it anywhere, because it never happened.
     

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