Can Anyone Stop Donald Trump?

Perhaps not when comparing Trump with Hillary. But we are not asking whom they would vote for. The question was how to you view Trump among Republicans only or Hillary among Democrats only, favorable or unfavorable. Personally I think this is more apples to apples, but not an exact fit for the reason you stated.

Trump does have pretty solid support, I would say around 20% of the GOP. The rest is soft. If Trump slips up, watch for that soft support to leave him. So the question is can he win the nomination with approximately 30% of the vote overall? I do not know.

 

Once the primaries start the winnowing will begin in earnest. In the early stages I expect T-Rump to be finish in the top 3 but once the field narrows down to less than 5 that is when he will start to sweat and when it is down to only 3 he will be struggling without a game plan and a ground game.

At that stage the establishment organization will swing in behind one of the other two remaining candidates, probably Rubio IMO, and do an all out push to have him win more delegates than T-Rump. They will probably bribe the other candidates who have dropped out to pledge their candidates to Rubio so as to lock them out from T-Rump.

 

Has Trump BS'ed the American people regarding the deaths of 4 Americans? Has Trump broken the law storing classified material on an insecure server? Amongst her sycophants Hillary can do no wrong.

 

They are trying to stop him because any sane person realizes he would be a serious disaster for the US.

 

There is good reason to be afraid of Trump as president. He is a loose canon. He is emotionally immature and has a low emotional IQ. He is not in anyway an appropriate person to be the leader of the free world. He is a racist and an elitist. He does not have 'his finger on the pulse of America.' Conservative, mostly uneducated and ignorant ones, like him. He spouts off the ideas they cherish, but does not speak to those who think and understand things more deeply and with more complexity.

The fact you think 'the Democrats may just as well just sit this election out' indicates how very out of touch you are with the overall perspective of the American people. Very much out of touch with it.

 

Sounds plausible to me. I haven't heard whether Trump is working on a ground game or not. Perhaps he is so media and social network savvy he thinks knocking on peoples doors and driving them to the polls is passe, ancient history.

 

If T-Rump becomes the GOP candidate the media will get to work uncovering whatever scandals exist in his closet. That is how the system works.

 

Alternatively he believes that he can just buy whatever he needs when the time comes.

 

That may be true. Romney actually did that. Buy the nomination, he had the money and in states where he outspent all his opponents from 5-1 to 10-1 he won. Where the money was basically even, he lost those states.

 

How sad to imagine that T-Rump could buy himself the GOP candidacy. The real question is will that work in the GE too?

 

I would say no. During the primaries Romney had all the money and the establishment behind him. The establishment was behind in 2008, but somehow McCain was able to pull that one out. Romney outspent the entire field by around 5-1. Romney also had an organization in place from 2008 while all the other candidates had to create their organizations from scratch.

As for the general, in 2012 both sides spent a billion dollars each. In other words the money was relative even. Obama had his organization in place from 2008 unlike the other primary candidates Romney faced. It was really an even election from all stand points. Hillary is not slouch at raising money. She may even have the money edge unless Trump if he is the candidate choose to spend a lot of his own money. Hillary will be spending other peoples, corporations, Wall Street, Lobbyists, mega money donors etc money.

No, the general election is a brand new ball game.

 

You lost any and all credibility with that lie.

I couldn't stand Kasich or Bush before, the love the Dems are throwing their way is confirming what anyone with a higher then room temp IQ already knew.

I'm a Ted Cruz guy, but there's quite a bit I absolutely love about Trump.

 

Well.if the dems do not want to stop him why is the liberal media joining in on the spinning? They were spinning lies about Carson and now Trump. I believe they saw the latest poll where Trump beats Hillary and are now afraid.

 

My gut tells me this and is hardly wrong.

 

It will be something said by Donald Trump that may be racially inflammatory that could stop Donald Trump. If he were to be caught and video-taped saying something really offensive toward African-Americans, then he would do himself in.

 

Thank you for that background.

With that in mind I would have to give the edge to Hillary if she were to be facing off against T-Rump because he is still a political neophyte whereas this would not be her first election. There is a learning curve and while it is entirely possible for a newbie to win the odds of someone as caustic as T-Rump pulling it off are not that great IMO. Or to put it in Romneyian terms, no amount of money can buy likability.

 

The Q/pac poll was a joke it was that badly done.

The media is not the Dem party. They are only interested in selling stories so they will write whatever sells. The Dems want a GOP candidate that they can beat. T-Rump is his own worst enemy and that is why the Dems have no intention of lifting a finger to stop him from winning the GOP nomination.

 

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....from self-destructing? I think not.

 

I don't think that is true at all. I don't think the DNC would have any idea how to run against him in the general election given that his support is so outside logic.

Neither would energize the GOP base, or more importantly, those libertarians who have been spending election night in other people's beds..

 

The "normals" in the GOP are now sufficiently desperate to actually begin pointing out that the entertainment celebrity is an habitual, shameless liar - not a strategy that is likely to carry any weight with the political ingénue's rabid fans.

If resorting to the truth is what it takes, and if Hindenburg's gambit has any impact, we'll see more of the novel approach.


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Correct me if I am wrong but are you drawing a distinction between the GOP base and those who vote GOP but are not part of the base? I don't want to make any erroneous assumptions but that is what I think I am reading in your post.

To address your first point the DNC does not need to worry about the T-Rump supporters. There is nothing that will persuade them not to vote for him. As Mr Deace stated he has a "high floor" that is completely loyal. The DNC won't bother to address them in the GE because it would be a waste of time and money.

Instead the DNC will focus their attention on the swing voters in the electorate since they hold the key to victory. In that regard T-Rump has already given them a head start by alienating so many of those voting bloc's with his rhetoric.

Per your 2nd point if I understand you correctly you are saying that Rubio and/or Kasich won't energize the GOP base to come out and vote. Wouldn't they be motivated to vote against Hillary even if they aren't exactly enthused with support for Rubio and/or Kasich?

That is not a DNC problem, it is an asset. It is only a problem for the RNC who will have to find another way to turn out the GOP base for Rubio and/or Kasich.

 

Gov Krispie Kreme has been thrown a lifeline and he is probably going to grab it with both hands and hang on for dear life. If anyone can take on T-Rump it is the "joizy boi" with an attitude.

 

Likability, you hit the nail on the head. The problem with Hillary is that she isn't liked much by the independents either. This is seen in their favorable or should I say unfavorable views of her. I have said from the get go that is Hillary's Achilles Heel. The GOP needs to nominate someone who can attract independents to take advantage of that. Trump is not that candidate. Most people have already made up their minds whether they like Trump and Hillary or not. Only 4% of the electorate state they haven't heard enough about those two to form an opinion on them in the favorable/unfavorable ratings. That means there will not be much movement one way or the other. Both are at 55% unfavorables give or take a point or two. Both are viewed as not trustworthy and dishonest by about the same percentage.

So who wins in a battle between those two if it comes down to that. You provided a good reason to say Hillary, another is the Democrats have a larger base vote than the GOP. Hillary doesn't have to win the independent vote, if she gets 46 or 47% she is in. Obama received 48% of the independent vote in 2012 to Romney's 51 and Obama still won by 4 million votes. I think a similar showing among indies will give the presidency to Hillary by about the same margin in the electoral college.

 

That's just what I've been hoping for, a one-on-one debate with a plethora of "expletives deleted" and eloquent regional sign language.

 

amusing, just wishful thinking tho...if one of the very crazies gets nominated (trump, carson, cruz) this election is over before it started