ISIS releases CHILLING propaganda video in ENGLISH (Link)

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  1. savage

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    It's all just a bunch of hot air from ISIS.
     
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    loony as toon they my be, but they can write a motivating add, which is some scary stuff. Trump is the last person to handle this.....go Hillary
     
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    So the person who surrendered the Ambassador to be killed by those people is the one most qualified to handle them? Sounds legit.
     
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    yeah surrendered, that's it huh, white flag and all?
     
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    OP wrote: We are dealing with a dangerous religious and political ideology with totalitarian ambitions.

    Take the word religious out and you have a more accurate statement...

    ... We are dealing with a dangerous political ideology with totalitarian ambitions...

    ... The so-called religious aspect is only there to give some credulity to the dupes...

    ... they use to do their dirty work for them, work which they themselves won't do...

    ... it's only the underlings, like suckers in a pyramid scheme, who do suicide missions.
     
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    I am not sure the citizens of Paris agree.....
     
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    The contained JV team right?
     
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    There is some accuracy in the video in terms of tactics. The fact is that Western leaders are all afraid to put troops in the field against ISIS. An air war alone can not possibly win. Without troops on the ground there is no victory. They have largely captured the territory they claim they have and are entrenched. I have yet to hear anyone propose a plan that actual would defeat ISIS.

    In addition, we seem committed to keep ISIS territory as part of Iraq, and most of the people of the area ISIS holds does not want to be part of Iraq. It was Joe Biden who suggested dividing up Iraq and it was the only good idea I've heard. Give ISIS territory to the Kurds, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Draw new national lines, like the West initially did in the region. Then air and equipment support would make sense. There would actually be incentive for the surrounding countries to engage on the ground against ISIS. In exchange for Turkey giving up some Kurdish majority land of remote Turkey, Turkey gets a much greater chunk of Iraq, including the oil of it as example.

    Trying to keep ISIS territory part of Iraq is absurd. Those people have reasons to hate the government of Baghdad. The Iraqi military won't fight ISIS. So why should the government of Iraq keep the territory if we and others win it? For that matter, I see no problem if the whole country of Iraq is eliminated and divided up among other countries - each country to get what it conquers. Anything short of such a plan can not possibly work. Even if we put massive numbers of troops on the ground, we are foreigners and would be hated.

    Just say goodbye to Iraq and quit pretending its a viable country. There is no army of Iraq, only the army of Baghdad and it relies on us even for defense of that.
     
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    so do you think our GI's are the sissies they are saying?
     
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    If by any reason you think that attacks in Iraq by guerrillas against the US stop because our troops were better fighters, well, you are living in a fantasy world.

    The Iraqi guerrillas stop their attacks because Petrous' strategy was the sending of troops going house to house, destroying the front door, getting inside, breaking everything saying that they were looking for guerrillas, and doing so block by block.

    Lots of innocent families lost their goods. It was practically a criminal strategy where at any movement of the people inside can cause the troops shooting to kill. This was Petrous tactic.

    The Iraqi guerrillas stop their attacks to protect their own people. not so because they were afraid of fighting, because they were doing a great war strategy. Of course it caused a great damage to our troops, but we must recognize that they did have a great war strategy. The words of Saddam Hussein promising US troops blood running on the streets of Bagdad were fulfilled after all.

    When the US troops came back, many can't handle to keep silence about what they did in Iraq, because you know, they swore not to tell anyone about what they did in that war. Many became drunker, hitting their wives and children, and finally killing themselves.

    On the other hand, Iraqi people, including women and children do not suffer of that "after war syndrome", even when they lived under daily bombings for months, because their conscious is CLEAN, they were victims not so the doers of evil.

    The video is right in one thing, the land is theirs.

    I have no idea what the hell the West is doing over there, but certainly the West is showing no respect for the sovereignty of those countries.

    The video is wrong in one thing only, that our national debt is not 6 trillion but ten trillion.

    My advice is to forget about those countries and concentrate in how to solve the current national debt issue. Sending bombs and troops to Iraq and Syria won't make us more safe, if someone says different, that someone is pulling your legs.

    The US politicians are distracting you from our crude reality... the US government is in bankruptcy... but they just want you to care about what is going on in Syria, a country that is not part of the USA...

    Your legs are being pulled... and it seems that your patriotic feelings are so proud of it...
     
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    I hate to say it, but this looks like a Hollywood production.
     
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    Hot air indeed!

    This has all the bravado of a video game advertisement.

    If people like our conservative friends are going to cower in fear over something like this, they really do live in a tiny scary world.

    Check out their website, amateurish misspellings and all.

    A high schooler could have done better.

    https://alhayatmedia.wordpress.com/
     
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    I think America should come to where this ISIS is and make it hide among civil population and then stay there for 30 years and wait until all those savages die from the old age.
     
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    Many of us predicted an outcome similar to this in 2003, but were shouted down by the warmongers and their complicit media propaganda.

    There is no reason to believe that another ground troop invasion will produce a different outcome. The result will be that ISIS will be destroyed and some other group hostile to us will emerge. It is like groundhog day.
     
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    if they were really trying to do it, they would not tell anyone

    spreading fear is what they try to do... often republicans try to help them do that....

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    The reason to believe is Japan and South Korea. When American occupation works it works. America just need to take full responsibility in its own hands and stay there as long as it needed.
     
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    Why would you want to promote a video you recognise as being propaganda? Nobody is going to be surprised by further general threats and challenges from ISIS and any specific statements obviously can’t be trusted so aren’t of any use. Obviously the relevant authorities should be (and I sure are) reviewing it to see if any concrete intelligence can be extracted but I see no reason to give this kind of thing any kind of wider public attention. It’s almost doing part of their job for them, building up the fear of terrorism despite in itself not impacting the real threat at all.
     
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    Truer words have seldom been spoken. Virtually every credible Middle East expert and counter terrorism expert in the world (except Ahmed Chalabi, Bush and Cheney and the Project for a New American Century) predicted that the US invasion of Iraq would create a power vacuum that would be a breeding ground for Islamic extremism, just as video of American troops bombing and shooting their way across Iraq would be their best recruiting poster.

    The really sick thing is that, while the PNAC is no more, it's "experts" and pundits have spread themselves around official Washington in a small group of shadowy advocacy groups with innocuous names like the Center for Security Policy.

    From the shadows, they are still yelling for the same shoot first, ask questions later, strategy that they peddled 15 years ago. Their only concession to reality is the tacit admission that the American public doesn't have the stomach for another ground war in the Middle East, given that the last one these guys advocated turned out so well.

    So they yell for a "coalition", meaning other people's troops, and yell at the President for not making the rest of the world fight a war on our behalf.

    This is all idiotic nonsense. Even more idiotic than the fantasies of being greeted with candy and flowers by Iraqis in 2003.

    But conservative politicians can hide behind the bluster, without having to take any responsibility or advocate a real workable plan (Congress won't even vote an Authorization to Use Military Force).

    All bluster, no plan.
     
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    These ISIS nitwits have the David and Goliath syndrome. Fortunately they are not the little ruddy-faced King David. They are simply a rag tag band of idiots and losers, and the fact that they have to use Western technology to broadcast their big-shot propaganda is proof of that. They don't get it though. They need to be wiped off the face of the earth.
     
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    Maybe those refugees will get a job in DHS...so they can keep an eye on them, under the same stellar vetting process.
     
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    Meanwhile liberals want to open the front door and invite them into our living room.

    Probably I. Hopes of more "wonderful times" to discuss more gun legislation .
     
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    Yep... poor spelling.

    https://alhayatmedia.wordpress.com/flames-of-war/
     

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