Gun Sales, CCPs, and NRA Memberships Soar.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/00/09/10/reviews/000910.10willot.html

I don't disagree with your post but it is my understanding that very few private citizens owned guns in colonial times. This fetishization of guns came much later and has been politicized to the point where the people of the former era would look at us modern people as nuts, just as the rest of the world looks at us now.

 

You do realize the websites you frequent wouldn't dare post anything pro NRA, and the source of data is actually the FBI with hyperlinks!
Sorry Charlie, the SCOTUS disagrees with you, so try again!

 

Not true. Gun owners were in the majority.

http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1489&context=wmlr

 

Almost everyone had a musket or rifle as pretty much everywhere was next to the 'drop edge of yonder' full of hostile savages.

 

Until there is common ground, there will be no solution. I am a gun owner and a liberal. There are issue I want the feds to be in control. Others not so much Find the common ground. People before profit

 

There is none. No more compromises as Liberals only want more & more. If you are a gun owner & vote Democrat then you are a fool.

 

Well, if you were to believe the views of the NY Times and a few anti-gun revisionist historians, then you might think that America was founded and settled by unarmed Hindus, Buddists and Atheists.

Certainly, many poor immigrants, indentured servants and slaves didn't have arms, but obviously, virtually every household near the frontier by Amerindians WAS armed. Not only for protection, but for hunting game. There was steady warfare between the Western settlers all the way from Jamestown to Geronimo. In the time of the USC, there were intense battles with Natives going on all along the frontier.

The following article takes issue with your anti-gun authors:

Gun ownership is particularly high compared to other common items. For example, in 813 itemized male inventories from the 1774 Jones national database, guns are listed in 54% of estates, compared to only 30% of estates listing any cash, 14% listing swords or edged weapons, 25% listing Bibles, 62% listing any book, and 79% listing any clothes. Using hierarchical loglinear modeling, the authors show that guns are more common in early American inventories where the decedent was male, Southern, rural, slave-owning, or above the lowest social class-or where the inventories were more detailed. The picture of gun ownership that emerges from these analyses substantially contradicts the assertions of Michael Bellesiles in Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture (Arming America). Contrary to Arming America's claims about probate inventories in seventeenth and eighteenth-century America, there were high numbers of guns, guns were much more common than swords or other edged weapons, women in 1774 owned guns at rates (18%) higher than Bellesiles claimed men did in 1765-1790 (14.7%), and 87-91% of gun-owning estates listed at least one gun that was not old or broken.
http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1489&context=wmlr

 

You'd be wrong. I happen to enjoy numerous types of projectile type weapons, from handguns to archery. However, I don't let NRA propaganda scare me, and I don't let my gun ownership dictate my politics.

 

Oooo, I see what you did there. The 'nuh uh, you are' response. I look forward to many intellectually stimulating debates with you in the future. I didn't realize who I was dealing with. I'll be more careful with my words in the future.

 

Propaganda? I've not known to NRA to issue propaganda. In fact, the NRA is the number one supporter of sensible firearm regulations. But they draw the line at the varied intentions to snuff out the second amendment. Were it not for the NRA, you probably wouldn't have any guns. There are also many Americans who think that the NRA has failed us by supporting sensible regulations, such as the ban on fully automatic weapons.

 

In all my decades of being around hardcore shooters, LE, Military types, etc., I have NEVER heard one use the phrase 'projectile type weapons'. Color me doubtful.

 

This statement basically disqualifies you from having a sane and/or logical opinion on firearms and shows how effective their propaganda actually is. The massive increase in arms/ammo sales in recent years shows that the industry is driven by nothing more than fear. It's also telling that the election of a smart minority spurred on the boom in gun sales, even in the absence of actual gun control legislation.

 

Well, I guess if you haven't heard it, it doesn't exist, right?

I said projectile because in addition to firearms, I enjoy archery just as much, as well as belonging to an engineering team that fabricates siege weaponry that fires (get ready for it) PROJECTILES!!! I learned to shoot in the Army as an infantryman. Did you ever serve? Color me doubtful.

 

Seriously, America?

Please step away from the TV screen.

 

Chicago Democrat. Yep, a real 'shootist'.

 

Where I come from, you're called a parrot!

“In his meeting with the columnists, Mr. Obama indicated that he did not see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, and made clear that he plans to step up his public arguments.”

 

What's not logical or sane is suggesting an absence of gun control legislation. The last 20 years has a laundry list of anti-gun efforts, including several serious evaluations of their chances of success in the last 5 years. Two of the democratic hopefuls have anti-gun legislation as one of their pillars for election.

Just because they haven't been successful, and support for their stance is at an all time low, it doesn't remove their desire or plans to enact those efforts. Feinstein is on record for wanting a complete and total ban, and I suspect there are more who are just smart enough to keep their mouths shut about the subject.

The true propaganda comes from the left, as the facts support the pro-gun argument.

Massive increase in guns shows that people do not want to be disarmed.

What fear tactics is the NRA promoting? Please cite examples.

 

That's ironically funny, but why am I supposed to care about this?

 

That "research" was fabricated and the author lost his job, was stripped of several honors as a result, and was widely condemned for his fraudulent actions. Just Google "Michael Bellesiles." He's an absolute joke.

Don't blindly believe everything you read in 16 year old articles.

 

That's something you'd have to ask yourself, your the one who responded!

 

But! How can that be?

Isn't he an "EXPERT"?

 

I think that you've been brainwashed. The fear peddlers are the gun grabbers who use every violent act to push more gun control, even though there are already an overabundance of regulations. Furthermore, the inner city mobs and terrorist acts are what spur people to arm themselves. How you link that to the NRA I don't know. These couple of points are why I believe that you are brainwashed because your reasoning makes no sense.

 

I'd hope Obama is getting better intel than what can be seen at CNN and FOX News?

 

The left is the largest and noisiest sales force for guns in the USA...The louder the grabbers whine, the more guns are sold.

 

But all it takes is a Judge who is reading challenged and the fundamental 'right' becomes a mere privilege that a politician or bureaucrat can remove on a whim.. THAT is what the left is counting on.