Red Cross volunteers heading to storm struck areas... any atheist organizations???

the supreme court has ruled on that topic... just like I cited it ruled it okay for one business to not provide a legally mandated birth control because of religious objections... I notice you dislike answering questions directly, and choose to respond with questions instead... why not just honestly answer the question I posed... I've been answering quite a few of yours, even when you make wild accusations and twist my words to mean something else... why not show me the same respect and answer mine directly...

if you have no interest in discussion this like the other two parrots chiming in repeating each other, just say so, I'll leave all three of you alone and you can have a silent victory lap together... just say the word...

 

Injecting extremism? You pull out one case out of over 20,000 gay marriages as "proof," and then play the "dishonest and misleading," card and
then want us to feel sorry that someone called you on your posts?

Please. Just. Stop.

 

the difference is they refused to give the birth control pill to anyone, they did not discriminate based on race or gender on who they gave it too

they can do the same with wedding cakes, don't give them to anyone, and not a issue

 

I agreed with that, I have no issue with a child wearing a little cross to school, I was saying what I did have issue with...... do you also have issue with those things? it seems you do, so we agree there too

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The Red Cross is not a religious organization. It may have been one initially, but it is not one any longer. It is a general national organization. People who work for the Red Cross and volunteer for the Red Cross are not necessarily religious.

 

Red Cross is a bunch of liars. How can any one give cash to them? Donate you time and labor but keep your money.

http://www.npr.org/2014/12/04/368453320/red-cross-misstates-how-donors-dollars-are-spent

http://www.propublica.org/article/red-cross-ceo-has-been-misleading-about-donations

 

Doctors Without Borders is not a religious organization. It's possible that many of the doctors are either not religious or don't believe in God. This thread illustrates one of the most sickening things about some religious people--their desire to believe themselves superior to people who are not religious. Such self righteousness and looking down your nose at people who don't believe as you do is actually not at all Christian. Try being a true Christian for a change. Just as many people who are not religious do good deeds, give to charities, volunteer to help others, etc. and so on. Grow up.

 

How about those executive salaries with outrageous benefits?


The second worst offender this year is Marsha J. Evans, President and CEO of the American Red Cross... for her salary for the year ending in 2009 was $651,957 plus expenses. Enjoys 6 weeks - fully paid holidays including all related expenses during the holiday trip for her and her husband and kids. including 100% fully paid health & dental plan for her and her family, for life. This means out of every dollar they bring in, about $0.39 goes to related charity causes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/charities.asp

 

Too bad you never bothered to actually read your own link which pointed out that not only is it outdated (Ms Evans is no longer the CEO) but the claims are wildly inaccurate!

So only 8% goes to overhead for the American Red Cross.

 

dang, so the almost the first million donated every year goes to the ceo... that is crazy

if I was working for a charity I would feel guilty making that much

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name one settlement out of court where someone sued a church for not marrying them, if true that was the stupidest church on the planet

I did comment on that case, hobby lobby refused the wedding cake (pills) to everyone, the bakery only refused the cake based on the gender of the couple, see the difference

the bakery can refuse to sell any wedding cakes too.... no one is stopping them

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So we can agree the Red Cross lied about 91% in '06. But you are sure they never lied before or after that.
How do you know ? Sources not from the Red Cross prove this?

How many sources do you need from me to prove Red Cross lies? Gave you NPR already. Reuters and the Gardian back the Red Cross is lying.

http://national.deseretnews.com/art...t-wont-tell-you-where-the-money-is-going.html

CNN 2010 has it right too.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/01/news/economy/red-cross-donations/

 

How about Charity Navigator or Forbes?

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277#.VoW9lfkrLBQ

Or are they lying too?

 

The International Red Cross predates the American Red Cross. The International Red Cross was founded in Switzerland in the 1860s.

The International Red Cross is a humanitarian organization not a religious one.

 

Yes.. I posted that several pages back and a bit of information on the Swiss flag.

 

Well, the current president of the red cross is of the Shinto religion.. but that doesn't make the organization itself a religious organization or a Shinto organization. The red cross at no point in their history ever claimed to be a religious organization. They are and always have been neutral

Let me say that again.. the red cross has never been self identified as a Christian organization, and you yourself are in no position to speak for them

 

Atheists tend to be more involved in secular humanitarian efforts rather than creating atheist specific charities. For one, they have no reason to do charity for the purpose of spreading their non-belief. Second, I've tried being involved in atheists specific charity work in the past. It seldom goes well. Too many theists turning down your donations and vandalizing your signs to make things worthwhile. There are too many petty theists for an atheist charity to get very far. Better to pick one of the many causes that need volunteers and leave religion out of it. Donate to Doctors Without Borders, mentor a kid, visit people in the hospital, clean up your streets. I'm an atheist and I volunteer about 20 hours a month. There's always room to help.

 

It is about the hours you put in or the people you know that you help. Buying aid for strangers ( you hope arrives) delivered by strangers, can some how make the vapid feel as though they accually did something good.

Some one is hungry? Help til their farm or sew their fishing net. Hurricane left people homeless? Grab your tool bag and build some homes. Red Cross spent $64 million of aid money to build 6 hoses for Haitian relief. How many Haitians needed homes? Is the $64 million price tag to high? Give sweat not cash if you really care.

https://www.propublica.org/article/...a-billion-dollars-for-haiti-and-built-6-homes


And the Red Cross makes good excuses.
http://www.redcross.org/news/article/The-Real-Story-of-the-6-Homes-Answering-Questions-about-Haiti


There is the truth , and there is the Red Cross lies.

 

Or just plain old made-up.

 

Not to mention the fact that the 1963 landmark Madeleine Murray O'Hara court case did Christianity much more of a favor than most Christians, who are obviously uttlerly and completely ignorant of the real facts, are willing to admit. Ignorance makes one weak. Perhaps this is why Christianity is not growing as fast as other religions.

Adults here can feel free to look up the actual, REAL parameters of the case and the one single horrible prayer that was challenged by O'Hara, who herself was indeed an atheist.

 

Why are alleged Theists so willing to deny and disparage a Bible which claims God created green plants including Marijuana and declared them to be Good and not Bad; Only infidels, protestants, and renegades can have a problem with it.

 

LOLwut???

 

I suggest "My atheist masquerade isn't working"
or "Help me distinguish gays from atheists"
or "Why won't the Red Cross hear my confession?"

 

No moral clue or moral Cause, either?

God said Pot is Good and not Bad; Only original sinners are claiming it is Bad and not Good.

 

Renaming the thread to "Epic Fail" would probably cover all of the above!



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When god said that pot was good was he inhaling?

 

does it matter if He said so?