Ben Carson Confronted at Town Hall: 'Do You Think I Chose to Be Gay?'

I do not claim to be homosexual at all. Where do you get this delusion that on homosexual's care about homosexual rights and how they are treated by society?

You didn't answer my question. Which side were you on in regards to Lawrence v Texas?

While you are answering that one: in the time before homosexuality was declared to no be a mental illness, gays were routinely forcibly confined to mental institutions. It's removal as a mental illness was instrumental to ending this practice. You oppose its removal. So if you had your way, gays would still be getting locked up in asylums. So how can you say that you don't care who gays have sex with?

Also, why do you insist on comparing child rape with consensual sex between adults? Please tell me you don't have children. I wouldn't want you to get confused one day.

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Rape is not the same as consensual sex. If you think it is, please kill yourself now before you have "consensual sex" with someone.

 

Yeah, homosexuality is defined by what gender you are attracted to.

Presumably, if you are a straight male, using your criteria of it being a choice, you can indeed choose to be attracted to other men, correct? After all, you can make this choice, correct?

 

dance around the answer all you want. I never said it should be legal. All I'm saying is it's the same. The fact that some in society seem one to be illegal and not the other based on man made laws does not matter. They are both sexual deviancies from the norm. Being a homosexual and being a pedophilia are both a disease of the mind. Who are what they are attracted does not matter. It is an unnatural thing. Same thing with being trans.

 

I would like to know when AN decided to be attracted to the opposite sex. Also, why can't I choose to be attracted to the opposite sex?

 

See the bolding (mine) in your post. All he said was "yeah I think you made a choice". How is that crude and inappropriate? You yourself say RIGHT THERE that its a choice.

 

It's not the same. Rape is not the same as consensual sex.

Being a pedophile is objectively harmful in the same way being a sociopath is. The same is not true of being homosexual.

People who like sadomasochism could be argued to be sexually deviant but their deviation doesn't matter so long as they aren't hurting people against their will. "Deviant" like "normal" is one of those words that implies a lot and means (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nothing.

 

No, homosexuality is not unnatural. It is found throughout the animal world. It is quite natural.

And no, homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same. Comparing what two consenting adults do to raping a child is not the same at all. That you don't know the difference is alarming.

 

I admit, I could be. And hell, I even tried it. But in trying it, I'm able to more clearly distinguish why it's a choice and why I wouldn't want to do it personally. A man cannot touch another man's heart. There may be physical pleasure in it but expecting a man to understand my emotional needs(when he himself has these same needs) is about as impractical, as impracticality can get.

Men are driven by passion
Women are driven by compassion

Merge the two together, and you get a powerful relationship. Men can be great co-workers, but not so much lovers. I couldn't understand the guy emotionally and he can't understand me there either. That, and there's a tenderness from women that doesn't exist in men. Not even the ones who dress or try to act feminine.

But hey, none of this is to demean anybody. This is just my own personal choice, and why I made it. And like I said: Based off emotional and romantic values. If a guy could appeal to that emotional and romantic side somehow, would I be opposed to a relationship with him? Not necessarily, but I feel there'll always be something lacking.

 

Ah. Former homosexual?

Why not?

 

A person reaps what he sews. Carson should not have said stupid remarks which he later apologized knowing he shouldn't have said those remarks.

 

so you wish to punish one group which is "born that way", why is that?

How about people who claim to be "in the wrong body" ?

Should a naked 14 year old male be allowed to shower next to a naked 14 year old girl in the school locker room?

If not, why not? Why does one sexual deviancy get preferential treatment over other sexual deviancies?

If you wish to discuss harm, then what harm is there in a guy having sex with a dead female if he is so inclined and born that way?

It's like being a little pregnant, there's no such thing.

In typical hypocritical fashion, you got your homosexual rights and now to heck with the other sexual deviants

 

And now we're getting to the crux of the issue. A man can indeed touch another man's heart. Why do you think we gay people have been trying to get married for so long?

You are clearly not homosexual. That is not a choice you made. Just from reading what you wrote, it clearly isn't. Why? Because you cant get from a man what you get from a woman.

Now, flip that around and maybe you'll understand a bit more. I can't get that thing you're talking about from a woman. I can from a man though. And no, that was not a choice I made either.

 

Pretty simple.

Raping kids is a bad thing.

 

I disagree sir. It is not normal for the everyday being of any species to be gay. If I get two cats together that are both male and they are the only other cats that they have seen for most of their lives, they still will not be gay. Do male dog hump each other, yes usually over dominance or horseplay, not over sexual pleasure.

So no it's not natural. It's a abnormality. Personally I believe people choose to be gay. I think it's something that is learned.

 

No? Then why is homosexuality common in the animal kingdom?

 

why, because it goes against your morality? So, because you don't like it then it must be outlawed?

How does having sex with a dead woman hurt anyone?

Come on now TFM, if you want to support one sexual deviancy then you should support them all. Or, is it that since "you got yours", to heck with everyone else?

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monkies toss poop, should we all now do that too?

 

No, never went as far as declaring myself a homosexual. I just had an experience with a guy and flung about it for a couple of days. But then I realized that we were completely incompatible. For the basic reasons I outlined in my last post. We guys are adrenaline based, and what guys seek(in our own various circumstances) is whoever emotionally and mentally is compatible with us.

For me, it's largely emotional. I find the pure expression of sexuality(especially a woman's sexuality) to be an art unto itself. The caring mother is always the type of woman that a guy would want/should want. It perfectly compliments a guy and allows us to tone it down from an adrenaline standpoint. It's the moment where she makes us a man, instead of a kid.

That valuable moment of transformation and even improvement is not going to come from another man, who has much the same need. I can't emotionally connect with him, and I can't make him feel stronger or better than he is. All I can do, is express my masculine views that he already shares. So for me personally, I just don't think a relationship with a guy would ever work out.

It'd remain sexual(at best) or highly competitive but never completing itself. It's like adding different flavored salt, it's STILL salt.

 

Pedophiles rape people. You don't see why that should be condemned and this is the same as someone having consensual sex? Really? You should kill yourself too before you "consensually sex" someone against their will.

As for the rest of your post, you do know Gender Identity Disorder is a real condition and that it is diagnosable yes? I don't believe a person should be able to diagnose themselves with GID and be treated like they have it anymore than I believe that people should be able to self-diagnose with schizophrenia and therefore get psychopharmacology drugs without a diagnoses and prescription from a doctor.

Can a dead body consent? Do you understand how psychologically (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up you are just by making these comparisons?

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How many posts do I have to make indicating that I am not homosexual before you stop lying/bearing false witness/putting yourself on pathway straight to hell?

 

thanks for answering my questions

you are a hypocrite and are trying to fool yourself.

Since you chose gay sex then that's OK. I bet you'd have a different perspective for necrophilia if that was the sexual lifestyle you chose instead of the gay lifestyle.

 

No, I did not choose to be gay. You can go on and on about it all you want, but I did not.

And do some research before you continue to make these uninformed statements.

 

No because children are not consenting adults, and adults (*)(*)(*)(*)ing children is rape.

Pretty sure corpses can't consent either.

Because I am not a bigoted Christian ass who thinks that the actions of consenting adults in the privacy of their homes is the same as child rape.

 

It doesn't matter.

Most of Carson's campaign staff quit last week, leaving his outside "business manager", Armstrong Williams in charge.

The Draft Ben Carson for President, and the Run Ben Run campaigns were direct mail scam pacs.

And when there was a "real" campaign, Bruce Eberle and his direct mail scammers, and Williams were front and center, making sure that the majority of money donated to Carson's campaign went into someone else's pockets.

Now that Carson's poll numbers are collapsing, along with his campaign, the scammers are figuring that they can milk the rubes for a few more weeks worth of small donations before cashing out.

 

So it was not a matter of attraction to men, but rather that specific man? Plenty of fish in the sea.

 

I know. heterosexuals are much worse.

I debunked it already

 

Sec is a liar.

I repeat sec is a lair.

After multiple posts of me correcting him, he still insists on lying and claiming I am a homosexual. Do not bother debating with him as he is a liar.