Ben Carson Confronted at Town Hall: 'Do You Think I Chose to Be Gay?'

if his attraction to adults is to women, yes

 

Boom. We gay men are not compatible with women in that way.

It's just as emotional for us, AN. And we experience the same transformations.

Because you're not gay.

 

you understand your blog doesn't refute my peer reviewed scientific paper right?

 

did you ever consider that my replies were before you took the tactic of claiming not to be homosexual?

I could care less as it does not affect my position. I am consistent all of the time that I have even donated to charities which offer programs to help alcoholics, drug and gambling addicts and yes, even homosexuals.

I do not selectively support people in need. I subscribe to "hate the sin but love the sinner"

That is why I will not sink to the depths of insulting people with whom I disagree. My goal is to help them. When it comes to those who have chosen the gay lifestyle, I do not subscribe to patronization. I know that the gay lifestyle is wrong and that the people who choose it need help.

 

right. and the statistics do not support his claim

this one, clearly

lol, this is a special kind of delusional

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except I just debunked his nonsense. like ive done your nonsense when you make the same claim

 

Then you should have problem answering the question you continue to avoid:

Which side were you on in regards to Lawrence v Texas?

 

Be careful. While I feel the same way, your best bet would to be to use the ignore function before you get banned.

 

Yes they do proportionally gays are way more likely to be pedophiles. You cant make absolute comparisons with one sample that represents 3% of the population and another that represents 97%. That is just bad statistics.

 

I'll take the hit if the moderators choose to bring it. My outrage is justified.

 

Mine was too, and I got banned.

 

Doing the right thing means doing it even if there are negative consequences. I'm not going to sit by while sec continues to spew bigoted bull(*)(*)(*)(*) without challenging him. And I'm not going to sit by and continue to let him say I am gay and call me a hypocrite based on that lie when I am not.

 

Proven otherwise

you don't have any idea what you are talking about

 

Why do you care if some random person on the internet that you'll never meet and has no clue who you are irl thinks you're gay ? Anyways good luck with your endeavor.

 

Let me try to redirect this back on topic, because it's becoming less about why it's "okay" to have a choice and more about my own psychological dating profile . So, why the "big debate" over whether your own sexuality is a choice or not? Because, if perceived to be a "choice" you might be shunned by those who disapprove of being gay(there's no correct way to phrase this.)?

But, why should that matter? The people who'd shun you because of your same-sex attraction, are the same people who'd shun you for any other old reason. You should be proud of your sexuality, your orientation and proud of your partner. Irrespective of how society feels. Society is judgmental, that's what it is

It's harsh, I know it's harsh I've been bullied for years. But when you find that special person, none of it matters. What society thinks, what society "condones". It doesn't matter. In saying that you didn't choose to be attracted to this person, you're lying to yourself. And for what? To gain the approval of some jock whose name you don't even know?

TLDR: In denying your own ability to make choices, the Christian Right wins.

 

No. You are confusing absolute with relative because you have no clue what you are talking about.

I've aced masters classes in stat what the (*)(*)(*)(*) have you done.

 

nope. I'm pointing out, via peer reviewed scientific paper, that his claim is incorrect and the statistics do not support him.

proven you wrong.

 

I don't care if he thinks I'm gay. I care that he continues to call me gay and use it as the basis of calling me a hypocrite when I have repeatedly corrected him.

 

Murder and cannibalism are natural as well . If we are going by natural law its kill or be killed. You guys love to conflate natural with normal. Mental illness is natural.

 

Merge two men together and you get never ending lust. Men are pigs. I cant imagine how many guys I would be screwing if I were gay. Does anyone ever go to a gay bar and fail to score?

 

AN, I have addressed this with you already. You did not choose to be heterosexual anymore than I chose to be gay. You even stated that you could not get what you needed emotionally for a man. That's not a choice. That just simply is.

It's the same way for us. We can't get what we need from the opposite sex. That is not a choice. That is just the way it is.

And no, I"m not lying to myself, I was doing that when I was a teenager dating girls and trying to convince myself I actually was attracted to them, and not guys. That was a lie. And I hurt myself and others by lying to myself back then.

I don't need anyone's approval. But I also will not sit here and let anyone tell me what I am or what I think. That includes you.

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Yes. Quite a bit actually.

 

Its not normal there. Eating your mate after sex however is more prevalent and normal for many species.

 

Normal is just as useless. You've already acknowledged that saying "eating sushi is abnormal" would be correct, but that statement has zero meaning.

It would also be correct to say "eating sushi is deviant" but that has no meaning either.

 

Why does it seem you are getting defensive here ? If theres nothing wrong with it why should you care what he thinks?

IMHO we are all born bi to one extent or the other. Nurture and circumstances can lead us in 1 direction or another. Thats why men are told to seek their feminine side.

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How do you know you didnt choose? Did you ever have sex with a woman ?

 

He has never and will never recommend the use of Ben Gay as a product to ease the sensation of pain.

 

You have never been more wrong