Two English questions, Second Grade level.

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  1. hkisdog

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    is the sentence correct? ---(1) "The store is closed".

    is it correct? - (2) it is a two story building. (which means there are two levels.)
     
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    The store is closed.

    In quotes:

    "The store is closed." (US) What you have is correct for European English in quotes.

    2nd:

    It is a two-story building.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    The first sentence is incorrect because the period should go inside the parenthesis.
    The second sentence is incorrect for two reasons: "it" is not capitalized; and there should be a hyphen between the "two" and "story". The word "story" actually means a factual account of events, but it has become common to use it in place of tier, or deck. A two-leveled building really isn't right as the original word of "level" meant a horizontal measurement.



    Others already pointed out the obvious, but there could be questions as to whether "story" is semantically correct.
     
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    In the US, story can refer to levels but outside it is usually storey. The other issue is that technically a story referred to a level but if you were referring to the total people should use storied as in if there are 6 floors, it is a six-storied building, though that is less commonly the way it is used today. And then there is that period outside the parenthesis.
     
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    The "i" in the first word in sentence (2) should be in upper case.
     
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    (Parenthesis) or "quotation marks?"
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a member of PF and, as such, refuse to admit when I am wrong (which is never anyways) so, yes, parenthesis.
     
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    The store is closed.

    This is a two story building...

    It really depends on how you are phrasing your sentence...
     
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    Two-story can be used, but it's not a grammatical rule....

    Theoretically you could say twostory....

    Two story is the correct way to write it...
     
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    (1) "The store is closed."

    (2) I would write it as "It is a two-storey building" (and I think using the contraction "it's" is more idiomatic, unless you want to be more formal or emphasise the "is"). But I use British English.
     
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    Just on the idiomatic use. There's an old saying that, "we speak in a first draft". That's to say that spoken English can be pretty lax (outside of a formal environment at least) but as long as the message gets across then laxity doesn't really matter. Written English is a different proposition. Again it depends on the setting but it's usual for written English to be a little more precise than spoken English. After all the reader (unlike the listener)* doesn't have the chance to ask the writer (unlike the speaker)** for clarification.

    * and ** - I could have used commas but I chose to use parentheses for effect.
     
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    I don't think usage of contractions has anything to do with precision. No meaning is omitted or made unclear through the usage of a contraction. To me, unless there is a need to emphasise "is" (and if there were, I would probably italicise the "is"), "it is" sounds clunky and strange in written English, probably more so than in formal spoken English.
     
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    Depends on what you're writing (as opposed to saying aloud) and its context. At the risk of being a boring pedant....

    I would write "it's" in informal written work. I probably would try to avoid it in, say, a paper for a refereed journal. The contraction would be - just in my opinion - fine for a newspaper column or report, a piece of fiction and similar informal contexts. If I were preparing a brief for court I'd not use a contraction unless it was in reported speech.

    I don't think it's about precision, more about context. And having just typed that short sentence I'm re-imagining it as, "I don't think it is about precision..." One contraction. "I do not think it is about precision..." No contractions. Here in the forums I'd used contractions, in a paper for publication I'd avoid them as much as I could. It does sound a bit formal so I'd save it for a formal context.
     
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    Closed the store is...


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    True, but formal situations are an exception (and slight "clunkiness" seems to be a requirement of formal writing; words/expressions such as "shan't" and "one" sound clunky too).
     

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