Migrant Rape Fears Spread Across Europe

That's why every captive was enslaved. All the women were nothing more than breeding cattle.

 

With no international borders dealing with cartels, a generally homogeneous population, and friends at all borders... It's an easy thing being Sweden. The migrants are culturally the opposite with the Western world. They need to assimilate or leave.

 

Why? The more violent and dangerous they are, the more power and concessions they obtain.

 

Of course they need to assimilate or leave.

Immigration is not what it used to be.
We used to work, learn the language, vote ... assimilate.
We did not have "press 2 for Spanish".

 

I'd take Spanish speakers any day.

 

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I don't have problems with Spanish people.
This was just an example that we (meaning myself and others) needed to learn English and assimilate.

 

Well, let's imagine dialing a 1-800 number and going through a litany of options, #1 Spanish, #2 German, #3 Japanese, #4 Arabic, #5 Farsi, #6 Pashtun, #7 Chinese, #8 Russian or #9 English.

 

Currently Syria has the highest fatality rate on the planet (with the combination of war casualties and starvation), if you want to talk about high risk, surely many of these people will die if they cannot find sanctuary.. and when I say this I do not need to use exaggerations, Syria quite literally is the most dangerous country in the world right now. Your notion on the other hand is full of exaggerations, you claim we are putting citizens at risk of being murdered, robbed, and raped by taking in these refugees.. there were no murders in the wave of crimes committed in Germany, and there was only one incident of there being a rape. You're trying to create this notion that the people fleeing from Syria aren't the ones at risk, but rather the people living in European countries that are accepting refugees. It's disingenuous

and again, none of the culprits in the German incidents were refugees... basically people are deciding because they have similar skin color and speak the same language that they are the same. There were somewhere over 80 suspects, and about 18 of those suspects were migrants.. and those migrants were from Morocco and Algeria. You're trying to create the presentation that the Syrian refugees are the ones responsible for the wave of crimes in Germany. It's dishonest

Furthermore, even if there were refugees among the mix of offenders, is making no distinction between the guilty and the innocent really the appropriate response? There's also a wave of crime in Germany every Octoberfest, would you propose we make no distinction between the guilty and innocent for this annual wave of crimes, and hold all people who take part in Octoberfest responsible?

frankly that would be more rational than holding every Arabic person responsible for the crime wave in Germany... yet both notions would still be pretty damn irrational and unjust

Heck, when my grandparents came to America there was a wave of crime committed by Italians, perhaps you would support the notion of holding that entire side of my family responsible and blocking them access to the US

 

Or fear of losing their jobs - and even lives? - from those in high places if they dare put their heads above the parapet?

 

Yeah that's right, more cowardice from the middle class, we might of lost are jobs if we stood up for children being raped, sick sick sick.

 

Would you have 'stood up', knowing full well that a) no-one would take the slightest notice of you, and b) that you'd get your P45 at the end of the current month? You can't blame it all on 'the poor bloody infantry'?

 

Well I can tell you that when I was 23 I knocked out a guy for putting his hand up a 11 year old girls skirt, in my workplace. Never gave the repercussions a second thought. But it was not the coppers or social workers on the ground who covered it up, it was the middle class office wallahs and career politicians.

 

Good point (and well done for flooring that pervert). There would seem to be a bureaucrats' ladder where if they've reached a certain rung it the achievement renders them untouchable (they become part of the elitist class?). Like that waste-of-space, self-serving (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Sharon Shoesmith, she of Baby Peter infamy. I wonder what highly-lucrative sinecure she landed herself, after she got her big payout and the dust had settled?

 

Clearly the bastards committing the attacks were to blame, but so often I hear excuses from people claiming, it was because of PC or it was because he was a big star or he was a politician. Theses people make me sick, they knew girls were being raped, children were being abused and everyone had an excuse for doing (*)(*)(*)(*) all.

 

43% of murders committed in the US were committed by blacks
Blacks make up about 12% of the population of the US.
---- FBI Uniform Crime reports. 2010-2014:

Race-Based Crime Statistics released by NYPD for 2012
Rapists: Black (53.5%) or Hispanic (32.3%).
Murderer: Black (55.1%) and Hispanic (30.8%)
White (10.3%)


in New York, if there are only whites, the murder and rape rates will both go down to about 10%.

 

It is not a matter of holding them responsible. It is a matter of selecting immigrants rationally.

Say you manufactured Cosmotrons and the widget was a critical component. You have two suppliers of widgets, Crossco and Cresco. The widgets from Crossco have a failure rate of 1% and the widgets from Cresco have a failure rate of 15%. Why would you buy any widgets at all from Cresco, even though the large majority of them worked just fine?

 

I know it's dangerous in syria and I know there are good and honest syrian refugees who just want safety. But I'm not only talking about syrians. There are plenty of people from other places that are also part of this big refugee crisis. From different places and for different reasons. To say that everyone who comes is a genuine refugee is as stupid and false as saying everyone is a fraud out to abuse their host countries. it is obvious there are both kinds of people. Why would there be? Countries like germany and Sweden are literally wide open for both real refugees and scumbags to come. What I'm saying is that we shouldn't just let anyone in, as we do now, because then we will of course let in some scumbags. Don't be naive. People aren't stupid. Don't you think they have internet, don't you think they've heard from others? They know of rich and generous countries and how easy it is to get there. And if we're talking about young men from a culture where honour killings and refusing to shake hands with a woman is the norm, they might have heard things about the women in those countries too. The cologne attacks were planned for heaven's sake. people are clearly capable of such filth. Why would they stay in their own poor and chaotic countries? and when they arrive here, there's quite frankly not much else for them to do. Arriving here with no family, no friends, no job and cramped in a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty house. young men are generally stupid, and if they don't have anything else to do they will of course go and do really stupid things. Combine that with a misogynist culture and you get stuff like cologne, and it's happened in stockholm too it was revealed recently.

No, I'm not blaming all refugees. of course not. What I'm saying is simply that there are scumbags comming with them, and we let everyone in. We shouldn't do that. Women and children, families, sure. But lone young men? please. Was it EVER a good idea to let in young men you don't know, from a mysogynist culture, into your country and let them walk free? it's obviously stupid, and look what happens. All I'm saying is, let's not be stupid. Don't let everyone in. They could be scumbags, they could be frauds, they could even be terrorists. We're at war for crying out loud. We such naive idiots right now and it's going to bite our arses off soon if we don't do anything about it. We got to have some kinds of checks, some kinds of standards. I you think just two seconds about it, you will realise that everyone has a gigantic incentive to be a fraud to get in, but we're still pretending everyone is a genuine refugee.

 

The tune that is tiring is the name calling.

 

Name calling? Calling a bigot a bigot is not name calling, its providing a descriptive label to a person who continuously spouts unsubstantiated prejudiced generalizations.

Tired of hearing it all the time? Maybe its time to start listening.

 

Well thank you for pointing out statistics that substantiated your fear of raping by visible minorities. Not to mention your impeccable mathematical assumption.

 

this has nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with knee jerk reactions to specious propaganda catering to the bigoted mind.

Fact is there are WAY more white rapists running around Europe than Immigrant rapists. Yet, when white guys rape, its merely an accepted crime statistic, but when brown people and "others" rape, its a racial and social epidemic of nation destroying proportions. Goose dont like Gander in this regard.

 

But you are studiously ignoring the fact that a Muslim immigrant is much more likely to rape a woman than a white man. It is perfectly rational and wise to restrict the immigration of high-risk Muslim immigrants.

Look at it this way. If you were advising a young white woman on the best route to walk home, would you advise her to walk through an Muslim immigrant neighborhood or take a detour which keeps her in white neighborhoods?

Hint: Muslim men think it is acceptable to rape lone white women who are showing skin. It is not a crime which is punished in their native lands.

 

No, I am claiming that the knee jerk "sky is falling" "immigrants are raping our women" position taken by many bigots based on anecdotal evidence and a report on crime stats from THIRTY years ago, is feeding bigoted hyperbole.

Note that last line of your quote:

Seems the exaggerated correlation breaks down when facts are considered and applied.

You might find the report from 2005 referred to in your post rather interesting.

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It provides a rather detailed analysis. Interestingly, they conclude that 95% of all foreign born immigrants are not even considered suspects in crimes.

Seems the evil immigrants are not nearly as evil when compared to the natives.

 

I don't call it impunity, I call it bad policing.

Is that because you feel your culture cannot withstand internal challenges from "outsiders"? Seems you certainly think that rejection of different attitudes and perspectives is necessary to preserve your cultural perceptions. Gotta admit that is some "exceptional" solution you go there.

 

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Maybe women are afraid of mass sexual assault on the street.