Should toy guns be banned?

Well, I'm 50 years old, and as a child in the 1970s I had toy guns that looked almost exactly like Real guns--my favorite was a Luger look-alike. I preferred them. I didn't like the fake looking guns. What has changed is that I never would have pointed one at an adult.

 

I was easygoing and laid back and had manners.

I didn't pull a toy gun on a cop, and would have had enough sense even at 5 years old not to do that.

 

No, a 12 yr old idiot. And/or someone who had ZERO common sense afforded him from responsible parents.

 

that would be ideal

 

100% orange, composed of material to which paint won't stick ...

 

They look exactly like real guns today. Not in the states because of that stupid orange tip they require, but Japan makes toy guns that look exactly like the real ones.

 

Japan has VERY strict gun control laws … and far lower rate of gun violence than in The USA ...

 

You guys do know that the police shot Tamir well before they could see if the tip was orange or not... right?

So the meme that he pulled his toy gun out and the cops shot him because it looked is idiotic. He never got the gun out in time as per the video.

 

"gun violence" is nonsense. If you got rid of 100% gun violence, you'd have baseball bat or machete violence to deal with.

Focusing on gun violence is just waving shiny stuff around hoping that people don't realize that you are avoiding the real issue which is violence.

 

In Japan, they register Samurai swords … too ...

 

The luger I had looked exactly like a real gun.

 

The nation of Japan also has an exceedingly high rate of suicide, and has experienced centuries of public indoctrination to make the people obedient to the will of government, putting the good of the community above themselves at all times. They have been socially programmed for hundreds of years to respect authority.

The same cannot be said for the united states. The two standards are not comparable in any way.

 

Ultimately for what purpose? To protect stupid people from their own poor impulse control, because they cannot or simply will not do it themselves?

 

Suicide by gun … ???

 

And you can buy VERY realistic looking weapons in Japan.

You know why? Because the Japanese don't walk through parks with their hoods up sticking them in people's faces acting like complete idiots.

They also don't list attacking police as a hobby. When you're in a country like ours where people kill cops, they're more likely to shoot first and ask questions later.

 

Why does the method of suicide matter? The lack of firearms has ultimately done little to keep the nation of Japan from having what some regard as the highest suicide rate of any supposedly developed nation.

 

The top 20 have little to no guns.

 

No, I think dispatch should relay information better.

 

Dispatch did exactly what they should.

The reported a 200lb, 5'7 black male wearing a hood walking about the park sticking a gun in people's faces.

The only mistake the police made was pulling up too close, forcing the cop getting out to be so close to him.

 

I suppose you are correct.

 

The one making the report stated that they believed the firearm was a fake.

Which was a deliberate action, putting themselves in potential harm's way to ensure they were justified in responding with deadly force as a first resort. They deliberately caused the reason to claim they feared for their lives, so they could get away with what many would classify as murder.

 

I saw videos of the firearm. Nothing about it looked fake, it even had a magazine.

Why do you think it was deliberate? Is there any evidence of that I never saw any.

 

And the person who made the report stated that they believed the firearm was a fake. Why did the dispatcher not inform the police officers of the possibility that the firearm may be a fake?

Precisely where does department policy instruct police officers to get as close as possible to a potentially armed suspect, thus putting themselves right in harm's way, before engaging them? Does not department policy instruct police officers to utilize distance between themselves and a suspect?

 

I would guess that when a gun is stuck in your face, "maybe" it's not real is something you're not willing to gamble your life on. I wouldn't.

I'm guessing they didn't know his exact location, and drove up that close on accident. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but parks aren't flat wide open spaces where you can spot someone easily.

 

Which does not answer the question. Why did the dispatcher not relay the information that the firearm was potentially fake to the police officers who were dispatched to the scene?

Which only applies to the Tamir Rice incident. Let us talk about police officers in general who deliberately put themselves as close to danger as possible, while simultaneously claiming that they were in fear of their lives while doing so, in order to justify the use of deadly force as the first response option. Where is this behavior encouraged or authorized in department policies? Where is rapid escalation taught as the primary response?