This is Ted Cruz's Plan For the Supreme Court

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  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    I support an Article V convention for that exact purpose. Remove the ability for interpretation to occur.

    As for freedom from government, if you think the Republican Party wants freedom from government then you have been bamboozled by a bunch of theocrats into thinking they are libertarians.
     
  2. TomFitz

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    Of course, you have evidence to support that claim. I won't hold my breath.

    Oh, and if you're worried about others tracking your whereabouts using GPS, I suggest you throw away your phone. Because, unless it's a very old one, it has a GPS tracker built into it.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    He didn't change the wording, he decided what it actually was and how it was applied

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    What kind of statements did the founders make about natural born citizens?
     
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    Then why did administration (and it's legal team) claim it wasn't a tax? The Senate Dem's made the same argument, why? I agree, in this case a mandate does equal a tax, but there are mandates that aren't. Thus, since the administration used the "it's not a tax" argument, it's not the SC's place to improve their case by simply ignoring what they were argued and ruling based on what they decided the administration really meant. It was a redicoulsly irresponsible ruling on Roberts's part.

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    Yea, even though the administration argued the exact opposite. That makes zero sense.
     
  5. PARTIZAN1

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    This is an awesome post!!! ha ha but so true
     
  6. JoeSixpack

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    Stacking the deck, probably wasn't the intent of having an unbiased set of justices to oversee 1/3rd of the government's power. Unfortunately ethics and the two party scam are not compatible.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    Doesn't matter what they argue, how it functions was what mattered
     
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    So in your view of the world anyone who does not agree with your interpretation of the Constitution automatically is accused of not liking the Constitution !!
     
  9. zbr6

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    Which claim?

    And there's a big difference between a device I willfully purchase that has the potential to be used against me by law enforcement through lawful (hopefully) subpoena and one that federal tyrants force me to install for the specific purpose of conducting warantless tracking PLUS using it as the mechanism to collect yet another tax.
     
  10. zbr6

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    Republicans created it, Conservatives objected, but in the end we all traded away a slice of freedom for the promise of security.

    It wasn't a good trade.
     
  11. theunbubba

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    What's really instructive is how long Ginsburg is holding on instead of giving Obama the opportunity to replace her.
    Very instructive.
     
  12. freakonature

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    Quite the opposite. I have disdain for the current Republicans. However, I do feel that Cruz has a pretty staunch principle as far as adherence to the constitution. Many times he has showed willingness to stand up to the false duopoly. His religious side is a negative, but I don't see a better alternative.
     
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    Ted's mother was born under the jurisdiction of the US. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.
     
  14. Zorro

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    No doubt Cruz would be better on Federal Judges. His first job though is to get elected. If he can't do that, it doesn't matter what his plan is.
     
  15. Alwayssa

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    Cruz is not going to get the nomination, so all of this is speculation at best and wishful thinking at its worst.
     
  16. doombug

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    I have said all along Cruz is unelectable. He would need some serious coaching to increase his appeal for example he needs to drop the "shining city on a hill" phrase. It did not work for Mitt Romney and won't work for him.

    But let's say Cruz does get some serious coaching and works hard to get elected. What makes anyone think Cruz can get anything done? He has opposed congress so much that they probably would not even approve any appointments made by him.
     
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    But Cruz was born in Canada so you wont vote for him???? I cant wait to here the excuse for this.
     
  18. The Mello Guy

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    So Twd is either Cuban or Canadian
     
  19. freakonature

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    Are you sexist?

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    Lord, please let Cruz get elected and absolutely nothing get done.
     
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    Which is why I would never vote for him, and I will do everything in my power if somehow he should be elected to oppose his every action, and why most liberals and democrats will do the same, this man is a fascist pure and simple and even crazier than the Trump. This nation will not survive the election of either man.
     
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    Since his father was not a naturalized Canadian citizen, his nationality and citizenship were Cuban. Also at the time Canada did not grant dual citizenship to anyone (they do now) so as far as Canada was concerned he was Canadian by birthright. Also, one thing is still unclear, we do not know if his mother had been naturalized as a Canadian Citizen, but she was registered to vote in Canadian elections. Another problem for Cruz is that he did not renounce his Canadian Citizenship until 2014.
     
  22. The Mello Guy

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    What you posted said father, that really means mother?
     
  23. freakonature

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    Cruz's mother was a citizen. He is a true citizen by his consent.
     
  24. Alwayssa

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    No it's political.
     
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    Socially liberal justices are especially important. The country has moved on, it is no longer culturally conservative.
     

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