Noam Chomsky: Sanders Is A New Deal Democrat

Let's call everything by its proper name. Socialism is what Lenin & Trotsky did. Sanders is at best a Social-Democrat.
To paraphrase Master Yoda: Lenin, Jr. Sanders is not.

Chomsky:
Sanders calls himself a Socialist, but I think what that means is New Deal Democrat basically. A New Deal Democrat in today’s political spectrum is way off to the left. President Eisenhower, who said that anyone who doesn’t accept New Deal measures is out of the political system, would be regarded as a dangerous leftist today. Everything has moved so far to the right. I don’t agree with Sanders on everything, not surprisingly, but I think he’s a respectable New Deal Democrat whose proposals would help the country considerably.

https://chomsky.info/01202016-2/

 

Both Chomsky and Sanders are red. Socialists.

 

A New Deal Democrat is a swell person.

 

I've always thought of Sanders as someone in much the vein as FDR. The content of many of Sanders speaches isn't all that different from FDR's railing against the economic royalists of his day. Funding for the single payer health care would be on a scheme simular to that for Social Security. If one had been listening to the "Brunch with Bernie" segment of the Thom Hartman radio show every Friday for the past several years it would be obvious that Bernie Sanders' "Socialism" is essentially the New Deal expanded.

And why wouldn't we want more of the New Deal? The United States became the most important country in the world while FDR was at the helm, with his New Deal ideas giving us the middle class we are all now trying so desperately to hang on to.

 

because at the same time that he is giving you this new deal he is breaking down all semblance of immigration control you have. pretty much only reason I am against sanders and for trump

 

True to my liberal leanings I've always been for open borders, at least for travel and commerce, yet have come to reverse my stance on immigration. What changed my mind was the middle eastern hord that has decended upon my ancestral homeland, in Scandinavia.

Even though there are tales of friendships between Vikings and Arabs the current rush to the north threatens to destroy the very social structure so many are so desperate to join.

The better solution would be to turn the asylum seekers away. To encourage them to see the benefits they see in the Scandinavian countries' social structures and to take what they see home with them to advocate for such practices in their own homelands.

Perhaps the failure of the Syria uprising was that the opposition offered no vision. Had the opposition leaders preached about a society based on the Swedish example (minus the king) perhaps the revolution would be in the history books by now - and a new democracy in the Middle East.

 

I agree. In domestic policy im mostly liberal but not in foreign which is essentially what the immigration is. The thing that sealed it for me was the same as you germany. You really see how the open border that democrats want cant work. I really doubt merkel will survive the year.

 

Interesting that you changed your mind only when it was your ox being gored.

Well, better late than never.

 

Sanders is a self-hating Jew.
He does not want to win a nomination, let alone a presidency at all, but merely to babble a bit about "socialism" and "revolution" and thus to revive
a 150 years old lie about "Jewish-Communist conspiracy".

 

Well, I personally have moved further right because I feel we have too many "New Deals" going on as we speak.

Other than a massive infrastructure project, nothing else would be new. We have like 30 social nets to help the poor.

The poor of the 1930's would like to have a conversation with the poor of today....

 

That's why I moved to the right years ago. Now, "poor" means six figure subsidies from the government per family for doing nothing but lazing around having children you can't afford, watching those children grow up ignorant, lazy and fatherless, and multiplying the cycle sponsored by liberal hack politicians lining their own pockets while crying about no opportunities on TV.

 

I hope you all know the New Deal was a complete failure. Without the war we never would have gotten out of the depression. There has never been a point in American history where the Supreme Court had to declare so many pieces of legislation as unconstitutional which is why FDR tried to stack the court in his favor by forcing retirement on the justices and upping the number to 11.

FDR also said he had no direction with the new deal and in his words, " I am throwing anything I can think of at the problem to see what works".

Those of you thinking the new deal was some great plan obviously have not studied it well.

 

Sanders runs counter to American history, culture, and economics.

His support is mostly from naive college kids who have never held a job or supported a family.

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The New Deal prolonged the depression.

 

Accurate and truthful

 

The New Deal got us out of the Depression and ushered in 50 years are prosperity. Before the New Deal we had a Depression every ten years or so. After? None.

We got into trouble when we started dismantling New Deal policies in the Reagan Era and Bush put the nail in the coffin in the first decade of this Century.(Yes Bill Clinton bears some responsibility by signing that Republican repeal of Glass Steagall)

Let's not forget that the New Deal gave us Social Security and paved the way for Medicare as well as a host of workplace benefits that we all now take for granted.

 

That is pretty harsh and assumes all Jews think or act alike.. A pretty damn bigoted concept.

 

The self-hating Jew Sanders comprehends that the anti-Semites believe in this.
He comprehends that facing a Jewish guy babbling about "socialism" and "revolution" they will immediately start to hallucinate about "Jewish-Communist conspiracy".
Because he hates his own people and wants to damage them.

 

It did not. It never fixed unemployment and it certainly never fixed poverty. Only the war fixed those things.

In 1939, the unemployment rate was still 19 percent, and not until 1943 did it reach its pre-Depression levels.

 

Chomsky usually causes a tremendous misfortune, so that now he is in some way endorsing sanders, Mrs Clinton can be sure that she will run for the Presidency!

And to say all, even to change the meaning of the words said by others is simply childish. Or Sanders doesn't know what he says or Chomsky is childish ... which is the most probable option? That Chomsky is childish.

 

Yes, very visionary of you and perhaps a little naive. Unfortunately, in the case of Syria, there is nothing to return to and nobody there, frankly, is interested in 'social structures' right now. Everyone is trying to kill everyone else and the civilians are stuck in the middle of it all amid piles of rubble and rotting corpses.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...UICSgD&biw=1024&bih=653#imgrc=Z9nJufcY8xerbM:
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Seems the hate is just projection.

 

Chomsky is always right, and a lonely and honest political commentator.

 

Unemployment dropped every year of the New Deal except for 1937 when conservatives stupidly convinced FDR to cut back spending.

And do you know WHY WWII finally put the nail in the coffin of the Depression?

MASSIVE Federal spending of course.

 

We had a strong manufacturing base back then the best in the world.... Now instead of making it we consume it.

 

Ya know when it was dismantled?

During the Regan years