This is how Russians handle Syrian "refugees"

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  1. Edial

    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvuZaGfjfXU

    I think there are only about 12,000 Syrian "refugees" in Russia ...

    Russians despise those young punks especially what they are doing to women in Europe.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3393102/posts
    A group of 51 refugees were brutally assaulted outside a night club in Murmansk, Russia, after they groped and molested women at a night club Saturday.

    The refugees had previously been ordered to leave Norway for bad behavior and tried their luck in Russia. What they didn't realize when they went out clubbing in Murmansk is that Russians have less tolerance when it comes to sexual assault on local women than other European countries.
     
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    The movie is fake that has nothing to do with the case in a night club with refugees in Murmansk. Note there is a guy who walks in shorts. It's winter now, so it's wild cold in Murmansk. This guy would froze his balls walking in shorts now. However, there was the incident with the refugees in Murmansk region in the town Polyarnie Zori at nightclub in the night January 30 were brutally beaten five Arabs for sexual harassment to Russian women. Police even have not started an investigation for this case, having referred to the absence of applications from injured arabs.
     
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    The movie has nothing to do with that particular case. It just showed how the Russian police handles the refugees ... I thought that the Youtube description within would make it clear.
    They just herd them like cattle and take them away.

    And in the Murmansk case, the Russian police (according to another article) also threw in few punches ...


    In Europe the single male "refugees" ... or some call them "draft-dodgers" get away with sexual abuse, rape, hooliganism, intimidation.
    If this French guy would not have had a gun, that would have ended badly ... the "refugee" had a baseball bat and looked to beat them up.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHNZf-kXy5c
     
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    These punks are not refugees, they are migrants and they are being shipped into Europe from Turkey to Islamitize it. It's a gradual invasion and it will only get worse. What Vladimir Putin should do, is send them to Chechnya and let Kadyrov handle them.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    If they get to Kadyrov they might not come back at all.
    :hiding:

    Once Trump and Putin connect together ... entire Europe would have no choice but to allow opinions of their average people be heard.
     
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    Russia actualy took about 12 thousands Syrian refugees as far as know. Tese are mainly members of mixed Russian-Syrian families and former Syrian students that were educated in Russia. This people have no problems with integration. But this foam in Murmansk just uses so-called north corridor to get Norwey. Some of them were kicked out of Norwey because of behavior. No wander they are not welcomed here too. I think this is the good example for European polise, how to teache these gays. If you want to live in this country, please respect the local traditions or get the hell away.
     
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    It seems to be another virus information campaign.

    1. Refuges don't go to Russia for a number of reasons.
    - economical (EU is more advanced than Russia)
    - propagandist (EU is advertised as paradise all over the world to attract migrants)
    - political (it is easier in terms of geography and means of communication to get to Turkey and to cross meditarenean in its narrow spot rather than to make a journey through Caucaus or Black Sea crossing a guarded border several times).

    2. Russians don't fight with migrants. There are plenty of migrants from asian former soviet republiques. These people work illegally without any protection from a law. There were several initiatives how to protect the rights of the people but so far there were no brilliant success about it. What is right is that the migrants in Russia work their a$$ off and don't get everything for free in refugee camps. I would also believe that a group of migrants attacking women would get a fast response from young people. It is possible. But not the rule. So far Russia remained a patriarchal state with family values and a view that men are stronger and have more responsibilities just because they MUST protect their women. This inequality of rights and obligations seems to be out of the rule in modern western ideas of society. But it is different. You can hope for help. It makes sense to scream in the night time if you are running from a criminal. But you might not find this help. It's life. People are different.

    3. In this case it is most possibly illegal migrants, who were captured at one of illegal manufactury without documents transported to a closest police station. It is not the best idea to deal in such a way with these people. But it makes some sense for there is no point in leaving them and waiting until they run away.
     
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    I like it. But if someone not like it, he can go to Europe and the rape of European women and men. More precisely those who had once called a man, but now - this creatures without sex. And in Europe continue to preach tolerance and hypocrisy.
     
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    Absolutely correct..........the European metrosexual leftists are cowards, homosexuals and perverts. They allow the rape of their women and children.
    I have been a big fan of the Russian Nationalists for years.
    Mayor Yuri Luzkhov and the way he handled the gay parade and its attempt to pervert the national monument of the Great Patriotic War was inspirational.
    Also the way the Russian special forces execute the Somali pirates attempting to hijack Russian ships is the proper response.

    See Alexander Maiskovoy's article from last week on this issue.............it's tremendous.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    Why virus information?
    Maybe I do not know what virus information means ...

    In my opinion, in addition to what you say
    Refugees don't go to Russia because Russia would not give them that much aid as the Europe would, since it accepted millions of Ukrainian refugees.
    There is a general dislike towards this situation in general among the Russians, since the destabilization of the Middle East is a problem that NATO created.

    True, with one exception.
    The migrants from other republics are like our Mexicans in the U.S. And many of the migrants start infringing upon the culture of the Russians. So there is a movement to preserve Russian identity in Russia.

    Since the collapse of the USSR Russia was drowned in corruption - country was being stolen and robbed.

    This also included a moral destruction as well as political and ethnic "guilt" that was brainwashed upon the Russians.

    I think they are starting to reclaim their identity.
     
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    Meanwhile, Saudi Arabians have treated over 9,000 Syrian refugees in some 13 clinics they have set up in Jordan.
     
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    Funny that Turkey is sheltering nearly 3 million Syrian refugees just as they sheltered Iraqi refugees during Gulf Wars 1 and 2.
     
  13. Edial

    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    I could never understand nations that tolerate disrespect that some guests show to their country.

    European (and U.S.) countries for some odd reason consider that dealing with criminal element from other nations at their own rough level would lower our own moral value.
    Criminal elements understand tough laws and strict policing.
    You cannot "explain" to a criminal element you should not assault women and young girls and rob the elderly.

    Maybe we are just stupid ...
     
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    asfar as i remember, technicle
    your only a refugee if you stay in the first safe country you arrive in, meaning turkey
    anybody that migrates to europe from there is a immigrant unles we start to accept that turkey isnt a safe place to be for them
     
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    I read this not so long ago that some refugees were shipped to Murmansk from Sweden/Norway, laughed so hard I couldn't stop haha.
    Ruskies will sure know how to handle them.

    Although what I am surprised over is how calm the refugees have been when passing Serbia(its the main road to EU) maybe because of what happened during the 90's or did we just had luck. I know one incident where some football fans had beaten the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of a Arab because of some harassing. But nothing that went on to the medias.
     
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    You remember wrong.. There are temporary refugee camps.

    You might want to read the UN Refugee Convention of 1951.
     
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    I am not sure that the exact term sounds like that. But when you need to say something indirectly telling a story which would make a recepient to think or pay an interest to whay you needed = this is what I call virus.
    A video seems to be complimentary to russians. But it shows russians as if they are a happy part of a police state who like to humiliate poor refugees. And that is not so. The video is exceptional. We don't have dosens of people escorted by police every now and then. It happened somewhere in a warm season and was used on purpose at this given moment.

    In fact refugees get the help in Russia as well. Ukrainian refugees were met by special programs of resettlement. But of course all these programs were not as costly. E.G. they could find an accomodation for some time (needed to find a job) and they would be given priviledges in jobs. In some regions of Russia they could start a small village farm which makes a posibility to earn the living.
    People in Russia are just the same as anywhere in the world. They are different. :) Some people help refuges. Some people are afraid of them and spread dirty rumours. Some people envy the amount of attention paid to these people and feel somewhat jealous. But I can't say that all the russians think this or that. We just accepted the amount of refugees comparable to what EU has got without major scandals. However these people were mostly people of the same culture and they had no additional (!!!) problems integrating into a new society.

    Ukraine and Russia is the same people... Maybe this is why at the moment when radical right political movements came into power in Ukraine - russian radical nationalism received a deadly blow. In the 90s nationalism was quite powerful. I saw it in a new and fresh graffiti everywhere, I could easily met a group of skin-heads, tatoos, and their solar symbols. Now - you have more chance to meet a representative of black Africa in Russia than a russian nationalist.
    Meanwhile russian identity stands vague and unclear. There is a definite set of something which russians don't want to be. But there is also no positive and accepted cultural pattern of being russian.

    Corruption is an ethernal problem. The freatest artists and poets created so many works of art which show that the most enemy of a man is he himself that lately there was nothing new in the whole world culture. There is nothing except for the hope that Frodo would destroy the cursed symbol of all the bad or Dart Veider having killed everyone and he himself would take a last moment chance to choose the side of the good and to restore the balance of Power at a level near to zero.
    I would very much like to tell any positive news about the identity, but so far it seems that russians luckily don't have any time for thinking and deciding. It's a war...
     
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    Tolerance was invented by European liberals for monoethnic and former racist societies to protect rights of minority and to put the end of xenofobia. This works well as long as the minority is the minority, and the society does not face with an onslaught of hostile alien elements who is going to destroy this society. In this case, tolerance starts to destroy the whole system.

    Destroyer illusions is absolutely honest when he says that there is no tolerance in Russia. However, Russia is the multi-ethnic state from the very beginning of its existence, which has more than a thousand years of existence. Instead of tolerance, we use the other principle. This principle was not thought up by armchair ideologues, it has no name and it is not written in the laws. It exists in the cultural code at the level of mentality. I call this principle - the principle of respect. If you respect me, if you are friendly to me, I will respect you as well, you'll be my friend and even probably my brother. It does not matter your nationality, skin color or the religious affiliation. But if you do not respect me, if you are hostile to me, you are becoming my enemy, and no offense, in this case. All is fair. So we do not need tolerance because it similar to the ordinary hypocrisy, while the principle of respect is working much better, it is already proved by the centuries of experience.

    Now we see the situation where the former xenophobic society which is steeped in the excessive tolerance, faces with the aggressive crowd of people from other xenophobic society that have no any idea of any tolerance. These aliens are not going to be integrated into the European society, they are going to remake it according to their own principles, considering the native population as the source of income only and as the human material that does not deserve any respect. If Europe wants to keep its cultural identity in this situation, it must go from the principle of tolerance to the principle of respect not falling into nationalism and extremism. In other words - yes you are a refugee, you want to get an asylum here. Ok. But in this case, please learn our language, study our history, culture and traditions, respect all the people around of you. And we are glad to see you as our new member of society, you will be our brother, and noone care of your origin. But if you do not want to learn our language, you do not want to respect your new neighbors and you are going to live in our country in accordance with the traditions of your birthplace. Good-bye, in this case, we do not need you and we do not care of all your sufferings that you have suffered in your home state. So works the immunity of healthy organism that responds to the appearance of an alien element.
     
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    I just hope Russia doesn't open up yet another route to europe... From Russia's point of view, doing so would be a good way to get back at europe. They could just them in, and direct them to scandinavia.. I hope Russians are xenophobic enough to not open their borders.
     
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    In spite of everything,all economical problems,all political problems officially 3 million,unofficially 4 million Syrians are in Turkiye.
    We are not killing them.
    We are not beating them.
    We are not putting policemen and borders in front of them.
    And PEACEFUL, LOVELY, DEMOCRACY TEACHER EUROPE is asking Turkiye not to send any of these refugees to EUROPE.
    And they believe by paying 3 billion EUROs they are finishing all their duty.
    (*)(*)(*)(*) EUROPE's hypocracy.
     
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    word games,word games,word games,political (*)(*)(*)(*)...that's all you know.
    the reality is officialy 3 million refugees are in Turkiye.
    Like half million Iraqis.
    Like half million Afghans from many years before.
    Like 2 million Bulgarian Turks(1 million have already returned).
    EUROPE just talks.
    But action takes place outside EUROPE.
     
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    Do not worry! As soon as you will become the NATO's member this wonderful organization will save Sweden from Muslim invasion. And you will not be forced to buy a yashmak for the wife.
     
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    Edial Active Member Past Donor

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    Good post.
     

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