State Media SB: "82.3% of Belarusians - the renaming "Russia" to Muscovy"

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  1. litwin

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    can you use this contact and ask them? the poll was taking away of cos ...
     
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    made my day))) 1) Byzantium has never had existed 2) different names for the Black Sea, LOL i do have different "names" for my girl friend, but we never try to use them in a Bank ...and what it has to do with our case?)))

    you made my day ))
     
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    1. Smolensk is the territory of Russia. So if Kadyrov appears there it will be just a visit of russian citizen to the territory of Russia. You think of it as a territory of Belarus because this is the propaganda of war for my people.
    2. Belarus is an allied to Russia state, which military infrastructure is ready for a big war with an agressive military alliane never defending and always attacking in its history. So I have nothing but pleasure from the news that my allies learnt how to make better weapons. The stronger they are - the stronger we are.
    3. Givi and other rebels and protesters have a chance to appear only in condition that Belarus turns from an independent state into a failed state in a result of color revolution. So far there are no reasons to think of this as of a possibility. Ukraine had a couple of successful maidans when legal elections were substituted by street revolutions and redividing of resources by different puppet-oligarchs. In Belarus and Russia it failed. And after we see the neighbouring Ukraine which lost all the perspectives, law and freedoms there is even a less chance for a success. So the people like Givi or Motorolla will continue to work as clerks, workers, teachers and doctors, which is not that bad comparing to fame that they had to get in a bloody war conflict.
     
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    Eastern Roman Empire has never existed? :) Well. You forgot to add 'for me'. Because those who know history - know o Byzantium.

    Nothing. Swedish lake also used to be an unofficial name. So what? It was just a comparison in a different dialogue with a different person who knows something of history and has his own country and people. He's got different ideology and historical events to be proud of. He is a patriot of a different country. But both of us want peace and have responsibility and freedom to make decisions. You don't have one. And apart from Mr, Swedish Guy you are used for making wars and killing the civilians just for a vague and naive belief that having killed a number of them there will magically come the fame and the money with a respect from all the world.
     
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    1) if Kadyrov appears there , WE BOTH KNOW WHAT ´D IT MEAN...so stop your BS, and try talk as a normal guy not like a RT solder ...my point is that Belarus ´d hit you, much like Israel has done many times ...

    2) " people like Givi or Motorolla will continue to work" as the cleaners , thieves, drag dealers , have your seen the statistic ?

    3) i see. you still think that you can pull out Crimea 2 in Belarus , with help of trolls and RT , i told you about Pakistan so think , think...
     
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    yes, never ...
     
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    I don't have any idea what you mean and were made to think about Smolensk. But it is a territory of Russia. Kadyrov is a russian citizen. And Belarus is an ally of Russia. So if any citizen of Russia appears in any city of Russia it won't be any problem for Belarus.

    There is lie, big lie and statistics. Anyway it is much better to have such people around unknown in exchange for peaceful life for millions.

    Nuclear blackmailing is an only possibility for North Korea and it happens only in the times of American troops making the practice in the region. You blackmail me with weapon that belongs to Pakistan and might be used by a russian ally in case that a russian citizen whom you don't like appears in a russian city you want to make yours... I suppose that in North Korea you will be able to learn some good manners and common sense. Which in my viewpoint you definitely need.
     
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    If people called themselves differently from the name which stayed in history it doesn't mean that they never existed. :) In fact this very topic is an interesting psychological phenomenon. Some people instead of dealing with reality prefer to call their enemies differently as if because this change of name they would disappear themselves. :) Some modern tribals who invented cargo cult were behaving much more sensible in my viewpoint.
     
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    did you write about yourself?

    "Both "Byzantine Empire" and "Eastern Roman Empire" are historiographical terms created after the end of the realm!"
     
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    I never argued about it. 'Kievan Rus' is just the same term. But the people who lived in what is now known 'Byzantium' did call the Black Sea - 'Sea of Rus'.
     
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    You should check your links since you're topicstarter. You've posted a photoshop.
     
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    ok...., did 'Byzantium' call the Black Sea for 'Sea of ulus of Juchi'?

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    bs, only you the one who believe in this , that this poll was made in maydan....
     
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    Juchi was born 300 years after this name appeared.
     
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    i know it, but do you understand that you state institutionally has nothing to do with European civilization (rus´) ? that your "laws", form of governance , mentality, language8s), etc.? in my opinion Muscovy is closest to Persian (without high Persian culture) form of governance, but most experts say to Hans , which the mongols adapted, everywhere where they ruled
     
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    European civilization? If we speak of history I never heard about such a civilization. I know the geographical term of Europe. I know of spanish civilization. french civilization. roman and civilization of trade republics of Italy, German civilization, etc. I know of bloody and treacherous wars which lasted for decades and centuries costing millions of lives and indeed nothing like that has ever happened in other parts of the world. In modern times this part of the world sucked blood and reources from the whole world with a help of colonial and neo-colonial system of whih I also heard and learnt. I also know about the double standards when blood of a dosen clowns outweighed the blood of thousands of people in different parts of the world. But I never heard of any serious scientific research or book which would seriously explain what kind of phenomenon is this 'european civilization'. Of the remnants and cut phrases I smell the spirit of false assuarance that only people of a certain color of skin and origin have the birth rights for all the best that this world offers while the others can either obey them or get destroyed... I never saw it more than a propaganda for the dummies. It will soon collapse with the strong blows gotten from inside from the people who don't have any motivation to live and work and outside from the people who want to get into commanding position proving that it is their propaganda which is stronger, bloodier and more competitive.

    So if you wanted to provoke me by refusing of the rights to belong to european civilization - that doesn't really bother me. I am russian. I have a civilization of my own which is nothing worse or better. But it is mine.
     
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    very smart EU trolling, so you say that European civilization with its heritage of social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, etc. doesn't exist? Kiselev is it you?
     
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    It can be made by peoples like you as well :roflol: I mean - picture :)
     
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    It exists in many many different systems and times. Catholic and protestant ethical system has a lot in common but it is different. And even scandinavian protestantism is different from English. Modern ethical system exists for a couple of decades and hasn't yet established everywhere in Europe itself. If we speak of government tradition and managing strategies we will have to admit that different countries have different ones and unified bureacratical system of modern EU is anything but an example of perfection. SO once again I don't need any opinions about my personality. I am russian and thus for you I am the worst that has ever existed. Give me the reference to a book or any scientific reference which would explain what is 'european civilization'... For now it is nothing but religion system for fanatics-neofits. And btw I accept this religion and understand it, but not the bloody preys around the world that are made through your information activity...
     
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    or Frau Nuland ...do you believe in what you are taping here?
     

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