Oh no.......thousands of Bernie fans moving to....TRUMP?!

Unless you can prove malicious intent beyond a reasonable doubt there is no indictment.

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You are entitled to your own opinion.

 

That is a legal brief... Read it again.

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"It’s unclear whether Mrs. Clinton’s review process, which she said involved her lawyers making determinations, qualifies."

See what happens when you actually read?


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Wrong again ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

 

The only malicious intentions are those of the Republicans towards Hillary. They tried and failed with Bill Clinton and Obama. They are not going to succeed with Hillary either. But they can't stop feeding their extremist rightwing base with red meat disinformation either so they have to continue to waste tens of millions of taxpayer dollars instead.

 

If you can link something that supports this, then please do. This is just your opinion without any link.


Also, you posted some links in an earlier post trying to make this sound like it's over already, and that the FBI has completed it's work. Thos elinks were from 2015, and didnt seem to add up with stuff from this year...

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

From 2/8/16


So whats going on? The right wing noise machine known as MSNBC making things up?

 

None of that has to do with anything i said... I showed your links to be not quite what you are claiming so i guess i get the ^^^ in response eh?

Typical.

 

https://fam.state.gov/

https://fam.state.gov/searchapps/vi...s=PASSWORD&url=/FAM/05FAM/05FAM0820.html#M827

https://fam.state.gov/searchapps/vi...PASSWORD&url=/FAM/12FAM/12FAM0590.html#M592_1

This is what the FBI said that they were doing;

"Matters related" to the "private email SERVER" means that they are looking into potential security infractions and/or violations.

They are no longer looking into the CONTENT of the EMAILS themselves.

These are two completely different aspects of the investigation. Hillary has been cleared of any wrongdoing as far as email content is concerned (although the extremist rightwing still hasn't got that message yet).

The current investigation will determine if anyone either hacked into the server or was given unauthorized access to the server.

 

I do not see where, as you claimed, Malicious intent is required. Now my eyes arent as good as they used to be, so if I'm looking right at it, and somehow not seeing it I apologize in advance...but I'm not seeing it validate what you said.

I dont read it that way.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/268688-fbi-confirms-probe-clinton-probe-is-ongoing
02/08/16 06:04 PM EST

Not sure how you can say what they are or are not looking at frankly. I think you are speculating, and trying to run damage control for your candidate.

 

Trey Gowdy exposed her on everything. This was all after the dates on those links you posted.

 

I don't understand why the establishment thinks she'll have much support, a lot of people have said what you said. There aren't a lot of people (considering) that like her.

 

Investigating America's biggest crook isn't a waste of money. Claiming it's a waste is left wing extremist talking point and your way of saying this isn't a big deal. A waste of money is charging me with a fine for not wanting obamacare. I spend less in one trip to the doctor than I do on the monthly payment, and never go over the OOP amount in one year, and it resets every year.

 

You've already proclaimed they are looking at her! Despite the FBI saying otherwise.

 

They are, this is common knowledge.

Now as to the details of exactly what they are looking at in regards to her and the email server...obviously I have no real idea as they arent releasing it. But they certainly are looking into it, despite the other poster trying to make it sound as if they're done and she's scott free.

 

No, the R is not the problem. I'll give you that Trump isn't the typical crazy republican... but he is still crazy. The wall will not be paid for by Mexico, so it won't be built. Torture and killing innocent people on purpose as revenge is not what America stands for. New healthcare plan is a step backwards. Economic plan is non-existent. His desire to expand the military will still bankrupt us, like the rest of the republicans. He is a crazy buffoon, but you are right, he is not quite as likely to start WWIII as the rest of R's.

 

Why has the FBI said otherwise? Is it not common knowledge to them?

 

Bernie supporters aren't the only jump on the Trump wagon.

Jim Webb: I won't vote for Clinton, but I may for Trump

He said Clinton would simply continue President Barack Obama’s policies, but that with Trump, things would change — but he's not convinced it would be for the better.
“If you're voting for Donald Trump, you may get something very good or very bad,” Webb said. “If you're voting for Hillary Clinton, you're going to be getting the same thing.”
Webb's former senior strategist, David "Mudcat" Sanders, told POLITICO he wouldn't be voting for Clinton, either.
"As a Jim Webb Democrat, and I’ve called myself that before, I’ve never been prouder of the boy," Saunders said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/jim-webb-no-hillary-clinton-220255#ixzz41xJKzlfd

 

They've said they are not ?

Well thats news to me, seems to be all thats on the nightly news, the radio and the web...like the headline I snipped last post.

 

I get not liking Hilary, but Trump though? Ted Cruz is also terrible. At this point its Kasich, Rubio or third party. Sanders at least has a plan to pay for everything, but its Sanders... If it comes down to Hilary or Trump I've got to go third party.

 

Looking into the use does not mean she's the target. In fact they've said she's not.

Actually, Clinton is not under FBI investigation. The inquiry to which Bush refers revolves around the private email server Clinton used while serving as secretary of state. And it is not a criminal investigation.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...whats-wrong-jeb-bush-saying-hillary-clinton-/

The referral did not accuse Clinton of any wrongdoing, and the two officials said Tuesday that the FBI is not targeting her.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...dd85ec-3aae-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html

 

Did you go to the links and read them? They lead you to the actions that will be taken in the event of infractions and violations. But here is the direct link instead because most people who don't work with regulatory compliance don't understand how these documents are laid out.

https://fam.state.gov/fam/12fam/12fam0550.html#M558

Hopefully that explains what you are missing. FTR I used the term "malicious" in place of "criminal" but it means essentially the same thing in this instance.

For starters I am an Independent so Bernie is my candidate, not Hillary.

Secondly the speculation is in the articles by the reporters.

Instead you need to read ONLY what the FBI general counsel actually said because then you remove the speculation. Here is the link (in your article) that shows his original letter.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/298604923/show-temp

So if we summarize what we already know about the emails, namely that Hillary had the authority to delete them and violated no laws by doing so and did not knowingly violate any security restrictions, there is nothing further to be learned in that regard and no indictment will be forthcoming.

As far as the server itself is concerned the FBI is currently interviewing the systems administrator to determine the level of compliance that was applied. (Why else would you talk to someone with that job description?) That means that they are trying to determine if he was aware of any hacking attempts and if he was diligent in applying the appropriate level of security on the server and networks. Hillary would have zero knowledge of this kind of technology and would not be expected to know about it either. So this aspect of the investigation is technology driven and yes, it could have compromised the content of her emails if it had been successfully hacked. FTR nothing is actually hacker proof short of physically unplugging all connections to the internet and even that doesn't stop someone who has physical access to the server.

Yes, I do know about this subject because I work in regulatory compliance for technology.

 

Well, isnt that the kind of thing they routinely say? XXX is not a suspect/target of the investigation? Seems the typical thing always said...like using the word allegedly until they have something difinitive.

It was her server, used by her...emails sent and recieved by her and her staff. Pretty hard to believe that she isnt of interest.

Also interesting was this from the link.

Nothing for her to worry about there either?

 

I guess it's more than not liking her. There is nothing about her that I can see is good. So much establishment it would be the worse then the last 2 combined.
She is owned by DC and Wall St.
Enough of that BS.

Not to mention the never ending wars or conflicts she'll keep us in. Just like the last 2.
We opened that can of worms with Iraq and we can't put it back in.

 

Trey Gowdy has crashed and burned. He has zero on Hillary.

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Your personal anecdotes are meaningless.

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Kindly refrain from mischaracterizing what I actually post.

TYIA

 

malicious or Criminal, no big deal I can accept either use of the word. However there is more to it in that highlight.

Grossly negligent works just as well when no intent can be shown doesnt it, and seems to carry the same weight. Even if we agree there was no malicious intent, certainly one could see gross negligence at the least.

Ok, sorry for assuming you were a Hillary supporter.

I'm not sure deleting emails is the only concern here though is it? These emails were "allegedly" sent and recieved when they shouldn't have been. For example, there has been plenty of talk about her corresponding with Blumenthal about Libya, and even discussing CIA assets names via email.

Deleting emails and claiming they were only the personal ones is just another piece of it. So if they find that that is in her power to do so, then thats fine...so no charges on that part. However we have to assume there is more than this, or we would not still be having an ongoing investigation.

 

The FBI is doing their due diligence since all means of accessing the server must be investigated for potential malware. The thumb drive could contain a virus that might have compromised the server hence the need to check it out. In essence it is SOP for them to look at anything and everything that would have had any potential to introduce a threat.

No, Hillary would not have been aware of a potential virus on that thumb drive any more than the average person knows about viruses on their own hardware.

 

Hilary is definitely Terrible.
Trump wants to somehow get Mexico to pay for a wall. And has an economically unfeasible plan to deport illegal immigrants. Yeah its going to be yuuuuge. Both are terrible and will not get my vote, Kasich and Rubio are at least somewhat reasonable.