Trump encourages violence

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump isn't simply justifying or condoning violence, he is encouraging it. He's playing a dangerous game by using violence against those with whom he disagrees, those who have a right to protest. Americans have never seen Fascism on a large scale in their own country, but have repeatedly lost soldiers in the fight against it. They should look to the example of Fascism in Europe to see what hateful rhetoric and calls for violence against domestic groups and suppression of free speech and assembly can do to a country.

    Here in his own words are his comments encouraging violence.

    August press conference, answering a question about a homeless man being beaten by Trump supporters in Boston.

    October - Richmond after a protester was punched and kicked by several Trump supporters.

    February - Las Vegas as a protester was removed from his rally.

    February - Cedar Rapids encouraging the crowd to attack anyone who might be preparing to throw a tomato.

    March - Warren Michigan as a protester is removed from a rally.

    March - Fayetteville rally.
     
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    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it funny that the Trump supporters rail against the establishment and authority, but then they condone when Trump uses that same authority to suppress dissenting protesters he doesn't like. It won't get any more established than that.
     
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    Neither has Trump. And If violence be necessary to preserve free speech then so what? You have every right to speak your own piece you have no right what ever to interfere with some one else's right to have there say. There is no freedom to shove the other guy of the podium because you don't like what he's saying.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point. You can't get any more closer to tyranny than using violence against protesters. And yet those who claim to be true to the constitution and its protections don't say a word when the 1st Amendment is violated by a Presidential candidate calling for violent subjugation of citizens.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even assuming what you say is true...we have trump 'condoning' violence but we have the left actually doing violence...from last night..

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    So then rape victims encourage their own rape?
     
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    Then, he applauds when his supporters use violence against decent people demonstrating against him, encourages his supporters to continue doing so, and snivels and whines about protestors VIOLATING HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. It seems hamster head, the repub current chief hypocrite, in addition to being more than willing to advocate his own version of two-bit storm trooper behavior and then to lie about it, is willing to falsely accuse others of

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    acting like the Trump chumps.

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    I assume this is supposed to make some sort of sense. Except to the delusional , it doesn't.

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    Also, his superior officer (fellow named Eisenhower) made him publically apologize.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it is ok to encourage violence as long as you do not run for elected office


    gotcha.
     
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    The only problem I have with the people protesting at Donny-boy's events is that the Trump chumps will try to make hamster head into some sort of martyr - as was done with Horst Wessel - I assume I got the spelling right, but don't really care.
     
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    You can't expect these vile trump followers to take responsibility for their behavior...they don't take responsibility for anything...its ALWAYS someone else's fault.

    That's the whole movement behind trump....a group of angry extremists who are pissed off at the trajectory of their lives and instead of looking in the mirror, they blame immigrants, blacks, women, or anyone else to deflect away from themselves. That's their whole schtick. Most of the time, they're so dumb that they have to be told who they're mad at. Then they slobber their hatred at whatever group they're told to hate.

    These people don't matter. They've always been around and their always moronic, simple, inbred and will follow whatever loudmouth flames their hate and tells them its ok that they hate everyone. They want validation for it...it makes them feel like its ok and accepted to be a racist pig.

    We already know that trump supporters are about 35% of the minority =>>>MOD EDIT Baiting Removed<<< party and we know that they're entrenched. The more moronic and loud trump gets...the more violent he gets...the more racist he gets...the more they're going to worship him. They will never question a thing...they are dumb sheep who will follow any leader that validates their idiocy.

    What does matter is that this campaign is getting very ugly and it will get worse. General elections are not primaries and normal, human, decent Americans are not going to vote for a hate-monger inciting violence...period. No one wants this. This is going to get played over and over and over. Its going to be used to show how trump causes violent division in America and he's going to lose badly. He is firmly cementing his loss. While his rabid supporters give him a pass over what he's done and said...the country simply won't.

    The RNC already sees the writing on the wall and this is ultimately their fault for pandering to the extreme neo-nazi right. Normally, the RNC likes its racism subtle, but by their actions, they've given rise to loud, slobbering trump.

    trump is already on the news talking about "fighting back"....he isn't even smart enough to urge peace and apologize for how things went. These rallies will continue to get worse and worse and people very well may get hurt. People protest at political rallies, it happens all the time...this is not how a real Leader handles this stuff and normal Americans know it. They know that trump is a violent hate-monger and they are becoming increasingly worried about his hard-core, extremist neo-nazi followers. THIS is what the GOP has given rise too....they should be so incredibly ashamed of themselves.

    trump is going to limp bleeding and bruised over the finish line to the nomination. The RNC convention will be a mess...another boiling pit of division. And then diverse America will vote for the Democratic nominee.
     
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    I highly doubt people are going to think violence at a couple of rallies outweighs clintons serial lies and corporate who're mongering.
     
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    And they refer to Nazis as symbols of fascism and hate yet Trump is promoting fascism and hate.

    You'd never see this kind of violence at a Hillary rally.
     
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    Look at these violent "thugs" at this Hillary rally:

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    Essentially, Trump is being very un-American.
     
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    I can't believe you wouldn't fight for free speech? what other rights are you willing to jettison without a fight?
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't endorse anyone with who I hadn't had a Loooong talkin with.

    Personally.
     
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    The KEY... is noting what aspects, principles and ideas Trump's supporters approve of. When it comes to THOSE things... they are more than willing to be "establishment" and "hyper-authoritarian".

    There evidence is there for ALL to see.
     
  18. Doug_yvr

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    What is being covered in the news? Trump's stupidity is on every night. The only people talking about emails are the people on the forum trying to distract people from Trump's stupidity.
     
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    That's really stupid to say. It's so cognitively dissonant... it is virtually pure intellectual noise.
     
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    Noted.

    Still, individual acts of violence in NO WAY exonerate Donald Trump from exercising poor leadership and proliferating dangerous political rhetoric.

    Be real.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok so everyone can fight for free speech. Screw the courts and the police, we'll all go to town. Anyone who wants to interrupt Trump can beat their way into the venue where he's speaking. Anyone who wants to yell at him can throw rocks if he tries to shut them down. Why not - it's all about fighting for free speech right?

    Or are the beatings only allowed when politicians order them?
     
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    I can't believe you wouldn't fight for free speech? what other rights are you willing to jettison without a fight?
     
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    And if you do those there have every right to fight back while they wait for the cops to show. up. That which you are not willing to fight for you will not long have.
     
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    Well good luck in the zoo you want to create. The rest of us prefer to live in a civilized society.
     
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    so typically leftist...one party arguably condones violence while the other party actually does violence and it is the first parties fault...moral relativism...Muslim invasion in the 8th century is Ok, Christian reaction in the 11th century is violence and th fault of the Christians but muslim violence today is excused because of that ancient history...
     

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