Today's supreme court justice nomination explains the Rise of Trump

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    Obama has nominated a moderate well qualified person who both sides agree is fit for the job. Republicans have backed Merrick Garland in the past, unanimously, and today agree he's a good nominee. Why won't they even give him a chance? because republicans like to play dirty politics, something they have been doing since Obama took office. How can we forget Senator Mcconell's famous remarks before the 2012 election that his priority was to remove Obama from office? Here they are, refusing to even consider Garland when they mostly agree he is qualified. The sole purpose here is to oppose Obama, no matter what he does. The excuse that it's an election year is nauseating. Obama is fulfilling his constitutional duty and republicans are fighting it, not on merit, but just on politics. This is not what the American people want or deserve...This is why Trump is the frankenstein that the republicans have created.
     
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    Then they'll get what they deserve.

    They can't go back on their blustering threats to obstruct the President now...so they'll double-down on stupid, as per usual, to appease the radicals in their party while forgetting the bigger picture.

    The Dems will take the White House and appoint a real Progressive to the SC, which is what Liberal voters want.

    The stench of Scalia will be a distant memory and the country can move towards progressiveness.

    The GOP harvesting an environment rich for trump, the hate-mongering racist, and obstructing our President will backfire. Perfect karma!
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Joe Biden said we shouldn't consider nominees this close to an election. He is who you voted for you know.

    We are just doing what the democrats said we should.
     
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    LibChik Well-Known Member

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    So the congress needs Joe Biden to explain to them how to do their job?

    Yea, that sounds about right.

    Of course, congress won't take responsibility for their incompetence...nothing new there.
     
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    Right after his inauguration in 2009, Obama said, "elections have consequences." Too bad he fought republicans all through his presidency, otherwise he might have had an easier time getting things done.

    Steve
     
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    Obama IS getting things done.

    He's showing the country how incompetent the GOP congress is and putting another building block in place to ensure the Democrats win the White House. lol...Democrats certainly don't want that guy to get nominated. I don't want a moderate, I want a clear Progressive Liberal. I'm fine with this guy getting blocked, the GOP congress getting smeared and Democrats getting empowered to vote.

    Thank you Mr President!!!!
     
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    NEWS FLASH: Since 2009 and passage of Obamacare, the dems have been losing power with each election. In 2014, they finally lost the Senate because the senators are in office for 6 years. If you look at the House, it is heavily Republican BECAUSE they are voted in every TWO years. That should tell rational people that the American People are fed up with democrats, their liberalism and their big government policies.

    In other words, the people don't like what dems are doing! Get over it.

    Steve
     
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    He's the president of the Senate. So, yes, he does sometimes need to tell them their jobs.
     
  9. Lesh

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    "This close to the election"?

    How close was "this close"?

    He was referring to the period AFTER the conventions when candidates had been picked.

    The way things are now..."the election season" starts with the end of the last election...which means we'd NEVER consider nominees.
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    If a 'conscience' is like a 'filter'... then those indulging in dirty politics (worst offenders = GOP), effectively end up damaging their consciences.

    With Trump, the GOP has essentially blown the seals on their Party's conscience; it is obviously no longer 'functioning' (their minds are CLOGGED). :(
     
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    Also...Biden was referring to the "Thurmond Rule" which a Republican used to block Abe Fortas in 1968.

    McConnell however says there is no such rule

    In 2008, as Bush was trying to get judicial nominees through a Democratic-controlled Senate, then-minority leader McConnell said, "There is no Thurmond Rule."

    And in June 2012, McConnell said his party would block some of Obama's judicial nominees to the circuit court until September.

    Now eight months before this presidential election, McConnell seems set on blocking Obama's nominee to fill Scalia's seat. And whether he invokes the Thurmond Rule or not, he'll probably be able to do it.
     
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    I disagree. President Obama is NOT showing the country how incompetent the GOP congress is. They are doing all that on their own. At least, this proves that the repubs are good at SOMETHING.
     
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    You know, if the GOP had REALLY listened to the 'bulk' or actual 'majority' of Americans... they would NOT have put political 'agendas' ahead of the WILL of the PEOPLE.

    The DNC is somewhat guilty of the same... but the GOP has been loud/proud about their obstruction supported with 'racism' (getting NOTHING done); they flaunted it, as though that were somehow good/honorable. Now people are PISSED... across the board (though they are expressing it differently).
     
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    Yes it is or they would not have given control of the house and senate to republicans. Let them speak again in the coming election. The reps are taking a big chance here. Should Hillary win the election and the Dems take the senate they will be wishing they had approved him. If Trump wins who knows who he will nominate. His sister maybe?
     
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    If Obama didn't make everything about race, there would be no calls of racism. Obama decided to support BLM. Obama supported Trayvon and Brown. Obama called innocent white cops, IDIOTS. Obama gets advice from a racists like Sharpton. He was married by a racist. He put the importance of black criminal deaths above innocent white people who were mudered. Obama ignores black on black crime. Obama did himself NO FAVORS as soon as he popped his head out onto the stage.
     
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    That is a STUPID exaggeration on your part.

    President Obama has done no such thing, and SURELY... you cannot prove that WARPED reality you've just related.

    But certainly, the White racists (not 'all' Whites) of this nation... could not stand the BLACK President. They lost their ever-lovin' minds (as indicated by Donald Trump's political support. No... the racists haven't fooled anyone but themselves, for the most part.

    Even so, the President is absolutely right to submit someone for nomination... and Congress would be wrong to just ignore that.

    Vote their asses OUT of the Senate if they stall? HELL YES!!!!
     
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    Amen. Indeed.
     
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    Hold off voting until after the election. If cankles wins then confirm him to stop her from putting up someone worse, it she loses than sit on the vote.
     
  19. Mike12

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    I find it laughable that Senator Mcconnell is now talking about 'The Biden Rule' as if whatever Biden says, Republicans will abide by. LOL!!! Okay, so if we re-name ObamaCare 'BidenCare', will they support it? LOL!!! What clowns! hahaha All of a sudden, republicans are Biden followers..
     
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    You have to understand....because it's a Prog Administration (currently residing in the White House) those rules/comparisons no longer apply. Correct??
    Dems? Please tell me how I am wrong? Why the change?
     
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    No he wasnt
     
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    1) First you need to understand what Biden meant by this close to an election.
    2) You need to believe that Biden speaks for the Democratic party
    3) You have to accept that Biden is the definitive answer on all Constitutional questions

    Etc, etc, etc.

    Or to put it simply if all the support for the republican position is a Biden statement taken out of context then the Republicans are clearly desperate to justify their own obstructionism.
     
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    And should we put it to a vote and he is rejected? What then? Be smart. If Hilary wins the Republican will nominate him to avoid an extreme liberal.
     
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    Are you saying he was wrong
     
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    Well maybe, but there is at least some indication that he doesn't understand the Bill of Rights. Do you have a link to his reasoning on Heller? I have hunted for it, but I can't find it. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but clearly this needs to be looked into.

    If you have a link to his reasoning on Heller, or the second amendment in general, I would be glad to read through it.
     

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