The Muslims will stop trying to kill us when ______

You cannot wage a military war against a worldwide religion with roughly 1.5 billion followers the vast majority of which only want to live in peace.

 

"The Muslims" are not trying to kill us.

People will stop saying that when bigotry and xenophobia are no longer spread by people and organizations who benefit by spreading fear and hatred, and their propoaganda dismissed by an informed people who don't blame minorities for their own problems..

In other words, a long time.

 

sadly it will just take time

the current crazy fanatics have to die

think back to history, how did the inquisitions end?

 

The percentage is not the main thing, since there could be a TRILLION MORE "moderate" Muslims and it wouldn't make Islam less of a threat...there are enough JIhadists right now to make Islam a serious threat. The 1.5 billion "moderates" are just potential recruits....lots and lots of potential recruits....recruits who are so committed to Islam that they refuse to improve the texts that the terrorists use to wage Jihad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

 

Jesus couldn't take it any longer and found his compassion and finally, after incredible amounts of torture and barbarity were committed in his name by his most loyal followers, doing what they think he would have done, using the book about him as a guide for perfect moral behavior, came down and educated them enough so that they said "I guess we were wrong, thanks, Jesus for educating us further", and finally stopped the barbaric Inquisition after those many many years of savagery?
No?
If not, well, I myself would have if I was in Jesus' shoes, because I care for people.
But I'm pretty sure Jesus did that, because he's so loving, so real, and so compassionate.

 

Jesus didn't come to change things, actually he wanted to keep the status quo (Matt 5:17-1. He would've felt that any hetero or homo non marital sex was unholy but would've also said before you correct a homosexual, you better correct your sexual deviancy. Don't tell off someone else's wrongs until you fix yours.

Jesus must've known ppl wouldn't stop having pre marital sex and that was the point.

Gay bashing is against God.

 

You're relying on Brigitte Gabriel, an acknowledged radical anti-Islamic activist that pulls the number of 25% of Muslims are radical jihadists right out of her ass, as a source of information? Do you also quote the KKK when talking about blacks and Mexicans?

 

Sure you can, why not?

 

Thank you so much. Islamic terrorism is a response to oppression of Sunni Muslims visited upon them by ahmadis, Baha'i, Yazidis, cartoonists, Shiites, Nigerian Christians and bloggers.

 

Perhaps it escaped your attention but the discussion centered on Islamo-Fascist terrorists obtaining nuclear devices, not Muslim nations....and striking Western cities with these weapons not each other.

 

The Paks and Indians are both allies of ours. It is important for us to stop em nuking each other.

Instead, we should go into Iran and sort em out.

 

"We"? Why should Europeans and European-Americans get involved in Semitic tribal squabbles? The only involvement should be a scorched Earth advance through Istanbul.

 

India, Pakistan, and Israel are all rogue nuclear weapons nations and because of that fact alone they're no more of an "ally" than N Korea that's also a rogue nuclear weapon nation. If these countries were allies they'd dismantle their nuclear weapons and become responsible nations by joining the NPT.

Based upon IAEA inspections in 2003 and the consensus of all US intelligence agencies since then in 2007 and 2012 Iran has not had a nuclear weapons program since at least 2003 and there's no evidence that it had a nuclear weapons program prior to 2003. The concern with Iran was that it's nuclear enrichment program could have been converted into one that produced nuclear weapons grade uranium and plutonium if Iran ever decided to start a nuclear weapons program at some future date. That possibility has been eliminated, at least for ten or more years, by the recent P5+1 nuclear agreement with Iran.

 

It we want to prevent any terrorist organization of any kind from obtaining nuclear weapons then the first step it to eliminate ALL nuclear weapons held by non-NPT nations which includes India, Pakistan, Israel and N Korea. Next we need to further reduce the nuclear weapons in the five authorized NPT nations which predominately relates to further reductions in the US and Russian stockpiles.

This is not a political issue but instead a pragmatic issue. Rogue nuclear weapons nations are the most likely to end up delivering nuclear weapons/materials to a terrorist organization and the huge stockpiles of nuclear weapons/materials held by NPT nations places everyone at risk as well.

 

This opinion ignores the real problem because it's myopic.

The real problem is that any national identity based upon race, religion, ethnic heritage, gender, social/economic status, or other invidious criteria is inherently tyrannical. A national identity based upon invidious criteria creates a "Supremacy" state of the "preferred" people in the society and the "disparaged" people in society and those "disparaged" are always oppressed by the "preferred" group.

This is obviously worse in those nations where a national identity based upon nefarious criteria is the official policy of government such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, and Israel but the same problem of oppression of the "disparaged" also exists based upon "society" where it's not officially condoned by the government such as the United States where "WASP Male Supremacy" has always controlled our social, economic, and political institutions.

This is the ideological war that needs to be waged. We need to work to end societies based upon "Supremacy" doctrines that employ invidious criteria that divides the people into the "preferred" and the "disparaged" where the "disparaged" are always oppressed.

 

Because we're not Adolf Hitler.

 

What's wrong with Adolf Hitler?

 

If you don't know then I assume that you would be incapable of understanding.

 

So you cannot point anything out?

 

"The Muslims will stop trying to kill us when..." ...?

I had no idea 1,5 billion muslims were collectively trying to kill someone.
Who is "us" in this context? Americans? Europeans? Americans and Europeans? Westeners? I assume the latter.

If 1,5 billion muslims (all of them) were trying to kill all Westeners, they would have done so long ago.
We (the Westeners) have more people killed by alcohol, smoking, car accidents, passive smoking, etc than by muslims.
Besides, we (the Westeners) kill muslims almost on a daily basis. Familiarise yourself with JSOC for a start. Just because it's not part of our (Western) media coverage, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. To make this clear, I'm not excusing any of the recent attacks in Paris and Brussels or any other past attacks, but I don't see "the muslims" killing "us."

 

The oil companies may hate the war zones but the only reason we are really there is to make sure that we can secure our oil sources.

 

We buy oil from Canada and Mexico... not much from OPEC.

 

Over 500 million deaths in Europe, not including US military casualties, as a result of Hitler starting WW II in Europe:
http://www.projectinposterum.org/docs/european_WWII_casualties.htm

Roughly 11 million innocent people including women and children murdered at the orders of Adolf Hitler during the Holocaust which included the ethnic cleansing (murder) of about six million European Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

 

Sam Harris says almost 20%, so I believe that 15-25% (but maybe closer to the 15%) is about right....either way it's over about 220 MILLION Jihadist/Sharia sympathizers.

What do you find to be the two most barbaric thing about Sharia Law, Shiva? If you can't list the 2 worst, then you either don't know Islam well enough to comment like you do, or you are just using a taqiyya-like tactic on us. What say you?

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And unicorns are real, too!!!!!
Of course there is evidence for this, that's why some European countries have made Holocaust denial a crime...THAT'S how much evidence for this there is!

 

Why would it need to be a crime if there was so much evidence? Where can I find the evidence?