The real reason for "Climate Change" alarmism

And yet it occurred without a single SUV on the planet spewing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

 

The "gullible, the foolish, the naive" are those who take at face value the fabricated evidence, the attempt at political suppression (See the calls for RICO prosecution of "deniers", the decision by various news outlets to not even publish commentary that posits other explanations for "global warming" such as cosmic rays increasing the water vapor in the atmosphere or solar activity?) of any other viewpoints.

Besides, don't you think that if the hoaxers discuss their primary goal of planetary wealth re-distribution by means of "climate change" legislation that we should at least take them at their word? It would explain the fabrication of data, the computer projections based on GIGO inputs that never seem to come to pass, the hysterical attempts to shut down those who haven't been indoctrinated in the religion of "climate change". Hitler sent his brownshirts to silence his opponents. The hoaxers send their greenshirts into universities and NGOs and government bureaus to silence reasonable people who haven't bought the hoax.

 

50 years? So lets look at some "climate news" over 50 years: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/1973-southern-snow-caused-by-global-cooling/ That's RIGHT. Back in the 70's they were saying a record snowstorm in the south was caused by "COOLING". How crazy was THAT? "Science" today is settled that big snow is caused by global WARMING.

There have been many embarrassing predictions of the hoaxers over time that haven't come true, starting with the "global cooling" scare: http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/18888-embarrassing-predictions-haunt-the-global-warming-industry

Why the whole 70's was once awash in scientific conclusions that a new ice age was upon us. The solution to which was that we should give up all our money and control over our lives to government to fix the problem: Here are dozens of contemporary articles from the time: http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html
It would be interesting to see how many of the scientists and politicians of the time were tub thumping for global cooling are the same ones who now push "global warming".

And look what the prescribed solutions were. Sound familiar? Why we will have to sacrifice democracy and stop the production of the internal combustion engine to stop global COOLING.

So, today we are told the calamity is "global WARMING". See, THAT is what causes various weather anomalies. And, even if the planet hasn't actually warmed like they predicted 20 years ago, that itself is proof of the problem

And the solution is the same: Give them all your money and control over your life and they will fix it.

Is this what you are talking about when you dismiss the objections to the climate hoax for the last 50 years as not being a conspiracy? First it was cooling (science was settled), now its warming for which the science is settled? And you don't think that is ....strange?

 

that's not climate change, that's local environment change. Man can dry up lakes if he dams up a river. He could flood a town if he gets rid of a dam.... that's man-caused, but not a man made global change.

I agree with you that those are problems. I have no issues regulating trash dumping, factory dirty water and smoke output regulations. I don't even have an issue trying to find a renewable fuel source that's better than gas.....

HOwever, just because my exhaust leaking 13 mpg jeep may cause smog, locally, which I should be compelled to either fix it or park it, I don't believe my 13 mpg jeep is causing an icecap to melt in Antarctica

 

So nice of them to come out and admit that Global Warming is a ruse to change the “economic development system” from Capitalism to Socialism that they control. ”Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection…". Of course it doesn't, I don't think it ever did. It was always about a bunch of power hungry socialists attempting to appoint themselves "Kings of the World". If the rest of the world wants to be taken for suckers....let 'em, just leave us out of it.

 

Well, all I can say is thank goodness for the true believers out there who know the truth (not the lies told by the peer-reviewed scientists of the world) and are fearlessly putting it out there for all to see. It must be really hard to do something like that when there are so many who, for whatever reasons, keep pointing out the flaws in reasoning. Nope - ain't gonna stop the true believers. So, march on.

 

The true believers are those who promote the hoax and will allow no breach of information that is contrary to the predictions, tenets and proclamations of the hoaxers. The "global warming" practitioners can be said to be akin to a religion - they base their religion on faith. They point to the pronouncements of their bishops in the "science" community as being revealed truth. They will not broach dissent even when confronted by facts that the writings of the bishops are false, made up, or are proven wrong.

Peer reviewed. Sure. Dr. Green gets paid to do a research project by some "green" interest group, an NGO, or a government bureaucracy to present a conclusion in a particular form. Others get paid by the same groups to verify the conclusion. All of these people know that the next grant or the payment of this grant won't materialize unless the proper conclusion is reached. And, Dr. Green just doesn't want to present his paper if it doesn't prove what those who paid his piper want to hear. If, however, Dr. Green can fudge the numbers, make something up then lose his original research or manipulate observed data from 50 years ago or pick the year to start his observations that confirms the conclusion his paymasters want, then he gets publicity, new grants, adulation in the faculty lounge, praise in the NYT, and his paymasters write the check.

 

Right, I was responding to the guy in Miami claiming flooding was due to ManBearPig or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManBearPig

 

Except almost all scientists and governments and people with past a high school education.

 

Some how there seems to be a need among the climate deners to confuse natural cycles with man made global warming. Just because the planet has warmed way in the past does not preclude that it is warming due to man's influence.

 

Don't they teach science in Texas? Oh, never mind. Keep on denying! The fossil fuel industry is glad you enjoy being on your knees for them.

 

And who do you think has bribed almst every scientific body on the planet to support the reality of man induced global warming. Or perhaps you can actually find one single scientifc body that denies AGW. If you can't then please tell us who has bribed the endless list that supports AGW.

 

A rather silly misreading of what the UN offical actually said.

 

Sea levels and been rising and land has been sinking for well over a century, long before the so-called "global warming". About .1 inch per year which I doubt you can see from your window down at the sea wall. Currents have also changed and influence sea levels. I live on the northern Gulf Coast and our causeway and piers and docks show no such signs of rising levels at least not enough you would notice.

 

Hmm same can be said about so called myth of "U.S.A National Debt"
Continue the doubt about future generations suffering our irresponsibility, Just google it.Wasn't that the main point of all you anti democrat peoples back in 11-14? Stop spending?
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/national_debt
https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/

 

Of course, of course. It's all a giant conspiracy that only the initiated are privy to. Arrayed against them are about 90% or more of the world's scientists who are promoting this myth for their own profit and well-being. The sad part of all of this is that every time someone denies the science and "explains" what is really going on, it turns out they don't know WTF they're talking about, have seriously misstated the information, and stuff like that. Then, when you track it back to what started that, turns out a lot of the information/funding comes from the carbon fuel industry. Amazing. If ever you get some solid scientific data that explains the worldwide warming, and not the nonsense meant to baffle the poorly educated, I'm sure we'll all hear about it

 

Does your window face your backyard?

So nice of them to come out and admit that Global Warming is a ruse to change the “economic development system” from Capitalism to Socialism that they control. ”Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection…". Of course it doesn't, I don't think it ever did. It was always about a bunch of power hungry socialists attempting to appoint themselves "Kings of the World". If the rest of the world wants to be taken for suckers....let 'em, just leave us out of it.

 

Ahh, yes. The planet has warmed in the past thanks to natural causes, yet now that cannot be the case, it can only be because of my SUV. Because.....well.....because the hoaxers want all our money and control over our life and if the cause was natural they couldn't scam us into those things.

 

Yeah, global warming, cooling....whatever. The problem would all go away just as soon as we agree to give them all our money and control over our lives. Magic, it would be, I tell you. Soon as they get all the power and all the money we would find life would be just peachy.

 

Beaches erode. Beachfront property disappears. Always has. Always will. Has nothing to do with global warming. To look out your window to see if the oceans are rising or falling is silly.

 

What world wide warming? Even the hoaxers agree there has been an 18 year "pause".

So, if the carbon fuel industry is the source of information disputing "global warming" and the Sierra Club, NGOs, the "green" industry, and politicized government bureaucracies are the sources of information confirming AGW, then both sides have vested interest in promoting their positions as one or the other will benefit if their side is triumphant.

Given the corruption witnessed among the alarmists, the failure of their predictions for 20 years and the admission of the purpose of the alarmism defined in the OP, I prefer to go with the side that DOESNT want to force me to give up all my money and control over my life.

 

Sorry but there actually is no side that denies AGW. Just a few stooges of the fossil fuel industry who have no credibilty in any scientific community. But if denying reality makes you feel in control of your money and your life then who would ever want to deprive you of your illusions.

 

What a bunch of BS!

 

The real reason for climate change alarmism is because it's happening and we have a segment of the population who prefer to pretend it isn't. I find that to be quite alarming.

 

So what is the natural cause? You know so much more than the scientists, what is it? And how does it explain that the stratosphere is cooling and the troposphere is cooling? How does it explain that nights are warming faster than days? How does it explain decreasing oxygen in the atmosphere? How does it explain the dropping pH in the oceans?

Go ahead, enlighten us with the specifics.