The real reason for "Climate Change" alarmism

There is no pause. There is no scientific organization that says there is a pause. It is a figment of the cherry pickers imagination, and they can't even do that anymore since the past two years have been so warm.

The evidence for anthropogenic climate change comes from decades of research across the planet by scientists at research universities in every major country on the planet, and most minor ones. If you think that science is not reliable because it was done at a university, than literally no science is reliable. Not chemistry, not physics, not engineering, not medicine.

And what politicized government beurocracies EXACTLY. Lets just look at the US. What secret US government entity has been engineering this conspiracy for 50+ years? The POTUS stays in office for a max of 8 years, congress turns over all the time. Who is running this secret show? And that is just one country. Who is doing it in England? Japan? China?

The only corruption has been a figment of the deniers imagination. Wrongdoing has never been found in any of the alleged scandals despite countless investigations by the denier crowd.

And IPCC predictions in particular have been very accurate.
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...t/01/ipcc-global-warming-projections-accurate

even from 20 years ago
http://www.livescience.com/25367-first-ipcc-climate-report-accurate.html

Lol. You guys always think there is some conspiracy to take your money for some reason. Strange seeing how the US gives the fossil fuel industry billions of dollars in subsidies every year already. And how much do you pay the power company for expensive and inefficient electricity? How much money do you give the gas industry to drive your vehicle every year?

 

Indeed, sea levels have risen in the past, but something has to cause the sea level to rise. It doesn't just magically rise one day because it feels like it. Today the sea level is rising from a combination of melting ice shelves as well as thermal expansion.

Something must also cause currents to change. Like changes in wind patterns for surface currents and changes in deep water formation and thermohaline circulation at depth.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/deep-water-ocean-currents-climate/

 

What happened to all the glacial ice after the ice age?
Now ask the simple question, did mankind have anything to do with it?

 

Oh man, do you seriously not know what science is? Here is a hint, it is not random newspaper articles or a blurb in Time magazine. Science is research using repeatable experimentation. Research that is published in peer reviewed journals. It is so so so sad when deniers try to pull out articles from the montreal gazette as proof of their conspiracy theories.

So what has the actual published science been saying for the past 50 years? The vast majority have been predicting warming since the 70s.




http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

The handful of papers that claimed there would continue to be cooling were mostly based off of the continued use of the CFCs, which were banned in the 70s.

 

The last ice age? It melted due to a chain reaction that was started by milankovitch cycles. These are changes in the tilt and rotation of the Earth that occur over a period of 100k years. We are not in a position now that would cause warming.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Milankovitch/milankovitch_2.php

 

When the fossil fuel industry spends million denying climate science, it's nothing short of evil and greedy, but when everyday citizens support the industry's sinister efforts by jumping on the denial bandwagon, it's just downright moronic.

Fossil fuel firms are still bankrolling climate denial lobby groups
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...still-bankrolling-climate-denial-lobby-groups

You deniers are a pathetic bunch.

 

Them ,them? Do you suffer from feeling powerless? Is the whole world out to get you. Do you hear the black helicopters in the night. There Are drugs that can help.

 

That is just a scientific opinion, many more scientists believe it was the result of ocean currents releasing high amounts of CO2.

Regardless, it had absolutely nothing to do with man!

 

Well, no they don't, but you'll never learn that by listening to Fox, rant radio or other right wing sources.

They don't "dispute" it; they flat out lie about it - same pattern as the tobacco companies used for years until they were forced to admit the truth (and some of those same people are working for the carbon fuel folks or their apologists).

I'm not talking about those groups, but I'll sooner take what they say as closer to the truth. I am talking about the actual people (scientists) involved in actually doing the work, not just in climate science but any related fields.

There may be a fraction of the real scientists involved doing some shady deals, but that's like about maybe .001% of the total as opposed to about 99.9% of the deniers. If you look closely, you will find a range of predictions ranging from not hardly anything to catastrophic events around every corner. But that's the range so if the extremes haven't happened, does not mean they were incorrect because mostly, what has been predicted really is happening. Again, walk away from whatever politicized junk you've been swallowing and look at the world around you and ask yourself - if we are not warming, why is this happening?

 

I pay the power company and the gas company so I can live a modern lifestyle. I will gladly continue to pay them. As you know, thanks to the oil companies and the wonderful science behind modern oil and gas production methods the supply of fossil fuels has increased because of their ingenuity and my comfortable modern lifestyle is cheaper than ever.

The permanent bureaucracy ever more full of committed ideologues is unconcerned with the changes in administrations and legislatures. Did you see the results of the 2014 elections? More Republicans in office at all levels of government than in any time in decades, yet they caved to Obama and let the hoaxers in the bureaucracy keep their funding by means of the omnibus budget deal at the end of last year. (hence the rise of Trump and Cruz BTW)
How exactly does the government give subsidies to the fossil fuel industry? Hoaxers claim this all the time. Please don't be stupid and claim that the ability to claim tax deductions for expenses incurred in the course of business like buying equipment or paying employees like all businesses do is a "subsidy".

Please detail how and under what programs the government writes a check to any fossil fuel business, because THAT is what a subsidy is - a government check, or in some cases, a loan guarantee - like the one that the taxpayers got stuck paying for on Solyndra, Ener1, and all the other "green" energy companies we took such a bath on.

BTW, as to the "Pause", I keep this link on file. It is one of many that discusses the issue. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/08/07/global-warming-pause-puts-crisis-in-perspective/#3ba72ec13737

 

Of course LOTS of things but no evidence we humans do or can control the world wide sea levels. And it rises and falls in one day because of the interaction of the moon's and the earth's gravitational pulls, that changes over time for a variety of factors.

So to declare that the oceans are rising because of something we do not understand at all and cannot predict at all and cannot even prove, global warming especially human caused global warming, is folly. And to even think we have the power to control the climate and the moon and the earth to even a a nano-effect on all of those effects is folly.

 

No it wasn't. If volcanoes could have such a long-term effect, Tambora, which in 1815 emitted more aerosols than the four volcanoes mentioned in the article combined, would have done so, too. It didn't. OTC, just a few years after Tambora, the modern warming trend took hold.

Too bad you didn't read the article:

"Analysis of the later phase of the Little Ice Age also suggests that changes in the Sun's output, particularly in the ultraviolet part of the spectrum, would also have contributed cooling."

LOL!

It was global.

Yes, it was. Skeptical Science is nothing but a warmist hysteria monger.

 

I read the article, and yeah, the person they quoted sounds like a communist. The key to redistribution is allowing developing nations to use fossil fuel while penalizing developed nations. The left's version of globalization, I guess. The right began redistributing wealth in the '80s with capitalization of China, SE Asia, Latin America, etc. Wealth has been redistributed for quite some time. Don't like it, but I'm not fearful or angry, either.

Fossil fuel will certainly outlast me, but it is a limited source. Somebody is going to have to develop alternate fuel sooner or later. I don't agree with the proposed plan in the article, but if it provides incentive for alternate fuel development, we could come out ahead.

 

Is this a deep dark secret? Everyone with common sense knows this by now.

 

Yeah, but not everyone has common sense. And the hoaxers keep claiming some sort of save the planet imperative that the weak minded have fallen for. So its useful to illuminate the real goals of the hoaxers by using their own words.

 

Too bad "what you see" isn't man caused. It's been going on for thousands of years. Cooling and warming.
That's what the earth does.

 

The seas have been rising since the end of the last glaciation period and will continue to rise until the next glaciation period. I am always surprised that people are shocked to find that ice melts during the mild interglacials.