Climate data since Vikings cast doubt on more wet, dry extremes

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Al Gore. Paging Al Gore. Please pick up the red courtesy phone. LMFAO!

    The AGW crowd will be saddened by this bit of news.

    The AGW movement is nothing more than an agenda to control the masses, centralize power, and redistribute wealth.

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    Climate data since Vikings cast doubt on more wet, dry extremes
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Ljungqvist said the findings did not mean current climate change, blamed on rising man-made greenhouse gas emissions, was less of a threat than thought.

    Why do you post stuff that debunks your own claims? Do you not read what you're posting or do you just hope nobody else will?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Ljungqvist didn't debunk my own claims.

    The statement above doesn't debunk my claim. Ljungqvist didn't say that "current climate change" was MORE of threat due to human activity.

    He's saying that "current climate change" is no more or less worse today than it was centuries ago.

    Because Ljungqvist also said..."many existing scientific models of climate change over-estimated assumptions that rising temperatures would make dry areas drier and wet areas wetter, with more extreme heatwaves, droughts, downpours and droughts."

    Why do you only pick one sentence out of the article without taking all that the article has to say?
     
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    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    You are the one cherry picking a sentence out of the article and ignoring what the scientists says it means.

    The article doesn't say what you wish it said. He says dry getting dry and wet getting wet is not more extreme today than in past climate change events, and models may have overestimated dry areas getting drier and wet areas getting wetter. As he pointed out, that doesn't magically mean that climate change isn't real or dangerous. All of those past climate change periods had a cause.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ending his own thread in the OP... I almost feel sorry for ML. Almost.
     
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    you are helping your position with the link you posted :)
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    And the "records" go back how long Lunch? That is the issue the "records" that you folk care about are such a minute part of this thing we call earths past.........
     
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    What "records"? Who were the expert climatologists 1200 years ago?
     
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    You just made my point for me. Thanks buddy.
     
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    Really?

    Where did he say that? I have read the article ad nowhere is that stated.


    He did, however, say this.


    "Absolutely not," he said, adding that the pace of warming had increased in recent years and that the 20th century was the warmest in the records.
    "

    So it appears your latest claim is also flat out wrong.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Did they have satellites, ice core data etc? Those records allegedly disproving global warming are no more valid for accuracy than your 'telephone game'.
     
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    So all the data including icecore data is bunk according to you and only the "records" which go back 150 years or so should be looked at? We should look at 150 years of a planet that has been around for billions of years?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    I think we misunderstand each other.
     
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    What "records"?

    The "records" that are abundant here on Mother Earth.

    Ice core samples, Tree ring data, Sedimentary layers, Geology, etc...

    Hello! Anyone home?????
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Here...

    "Ljungqvist said many existing scientific models of climate change over-estimated assumptions that rising temperatures would make dry areas drier and wet areas wetter, with more extreme heatwaves, droughts, downpours and droughts."
     
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    Ljungqvist is no fool so he pitched a broken chicken bone to the MMGW dogs.

    What a joke. Have you never seen the golden Druid hats that were created sometime around 1300 BC. It is believed that the wearer of the hat - a very important person - could predict the changing seasons based on a 18 year moon cycle that is depicted on the golden hat. At that time the climate was more predictable than it is today so the Hat Man may have ruled his or her local communities at some level because they could read the symbols on the hat. During that time mankind was still refining agriculture so the man in the hat was very important. The golden hat also tells us that what is now white people were not only mean and ruthless but very intelligent. So while the Egyptians were building giant rock piles the Druids in northern Europe were creating a golden weather calculator hat. White people put up Stonehenge in England to track the seasons hundreds of years before the Egyptians built their first rock pile.

    Right here. Maybe you should THINK about reading the whole article.

    Stretching back 1,200 years, written accounts of climate and data from tree rings, ice cores and marine sediments in the northern hemisphere indicated that variations in the extremes in the 20th century were less than in some past centuries.

    MWP - - "Evidence has been accumulating in many fields of investigation pointing to a notably warm climate in many parts of the world, that lasted a few centuries around A.D. 1000–1200, and was followed by a decline of temperature levels till between 1500 and 1700 the coldest phase since the last ice age occurred."
     
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    Nothing in that story "debunks" MolonLabe's claim.
    If anyone needs to read it's you!

    "We know that human-induced climate change is already affecting the hydrological cycle", he wrote, with evidence such as recent drought in Syria that he said was the worst in 900 years.

    This
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]article is from an environmental activist/journalist Alister Doyle and his best spin on the facts![/FONT]
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]If the drought in Syria is the worst in 900 years, that means there are recorded droughts that have plagued Syria prior to 900 years, again proving climate change is a natural cycle!
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    This is a very inconvenient truth for *algore and the climate alarmists.
     
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    DOconTEX Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The climate is ALWAYS changing. Has been for billions of years on Earth. The warmist hoaxers are attempting to convince us that the conditions today that may or may not indicate warming are unique in human history and/or that there is just one right temperature of planet earth that has to exist and that any change will be detrimental and not survivable by mankind. And, the wind up(they tell us)....man is causing any climate change and that the only possible solution is for us to give them all our money and control over our lives so they can fix the problem.

    BTW, watch them squirm when you ask why they changed the nomenclature of the future calamity from "global warming" to "climate change".

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    What really astounds me are the people who are so damn gullible to believe this absolute nonsense.
     
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    I forgot about the golden hat. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    No, the "alarmists" are telling you (but you refuse to listen) that the increase in global warming over and above natural cycles is because of the crap that we're pouring into our atmosphere.
    Were the "alarmists" wrong about the very real potential for climate change, mass crop failure and exponential increase in skin cancers which the depletion of the ozone layer would cause? Is that why the world's governments (including conservative Ronald Reagan) ratified the Montreal Protocol because it was a hoax?
    You care nothing for your environment or the world your descendants will have to live in; it's all about your holy cash and the Church of the Almighty Dollar you worship in.
     
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    But when they support AGW, they are like totally reliable, right? :roll:
     
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    Read my post above. My position on this is clear.
     
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