These striking images show just how overcrowded China's population really is

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    it's pretty telling he googled for Joel Olstein, and not

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    because it's trendy to make fun of Christians worshipping... it's Islamophobic to make fun of Muslims worshipping
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    That garbled reply had nothing to d with the post of mine you quoted:

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

    Are you just in an argumentative mood?

    Fact: People have to go where the jobs are.

    Fact: There are LESS JOBS in less populated areas ....probably because there's less people there.

    Find a job in a town that doesn't have manufacturing, hospitals, high tech companies, stores, ????

    See, if they do then those jobs are filled. ...that's why kids have been "leaving the farm" for ages....to go where the jobs are. IF the jobs are in isolated areas then there'd be more people there and the area wouldn't be isolated , there'd be people all over. """


    So you think doctors ( who you obviously think have limited skill sets) should not live in a small apartment , which they wouldn't have to do if they traveled on a freeway to the suburbs.

    IF a person lives in a small apartment it's because they live in a city where the jobs are don't have to travel on a freeway....you have some weird obsession with freeways...sheesh, they've been around a while , try to get over them...If a person wants to go from one place to another freeways are the usually easiest way ...and have nothing to do with "skill sets"....good lord....and good bye...

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    Liberals are the ones creating jobs for city people? Thank you for admitting that :)
     
  3. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a function of available energy and advancements in technology. Malthusian thought, to produce the gloomy outcomes, needs always assume technology will remain static. It doesn't. The next iteration of power production will most likely allow us to construct and power desalination plants where needed. It will also allow us to render our waste products, returning them to their constituent parts to be used again.

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    did you watch the video? I was making a point, they showed a jam packed Buddist gathering and declared it bad cause was crowded....

    so I showed a crowded Christian gathering to show people the error of their ways and funny thing is, you saw the error of their ways in my post rather then the video

    the same thing you said about my post, applies to the video, that was my point

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  5. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a good question and worthy of its own thread. The easy answer is that we are social animals. Yes in the populated areas jobs (cooperative efforts) are easier to create. I think there is more though, being sentient souls we know that death and hardship will happen and many seek comfort in the shared experience. Maybe it's weakness in the majority but I think it's more normal and natural, just as those that seek solitude and life closer to the earth are normal just holding a minority desire.

    I find the energy of large cities electric but I prefer to live in the wilderness.

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    China is dumping a huge amount of sewage directly into the ocean but, this is only a relatively small part of the problem.
    http://qz.com/200087/spewing-raw-se...-toxic-algae-and-man-sized-jellyfish-edition/

    The byproducts of consumption include increased CO2 and toxic chemicals such as heavy metals and Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPs)

    CO2 is an issue but the number 1 environmental issue facing the planet is pollution of the oceans with heavy metals and POP's.

    Increased population is obviously a problem as more of these nasty's are produced. What is also a massive problem is industrialization of these populations.

    For example from a study I read some time ago - someone eating a bowl of rice a day was at (1) in terms of consumption. China was at (11) at that time. Someone living in an industrialized nation in North America or Europe was at (36).

    The study stated that if China was to get to our level of consumption, world resource production would have to double. That's just China.

    Look at places like Nigeria. Places have huge toxic waste areas that drain directly into the Ocean. This is the Keystone Pipeline flap was so irritating.

    46% of the oil going to US Refineries is imported from 72 different countries. If we do not get the oil from Canada that means we need to buy it from Nigeria.

    A barrel of Nigerian Crude is way way way more dirty from an overall environmental perspective than the stuff from Canada where they don't just dump environmentally persistent chemicals into the oceans.

    More than two can's of tuna a week and will exceed the mercury guideline for pregnant women. Sure, that guideline is fairly low but still.

    On the CO2 end of things my worry is not about "Global Warming". The big issue is that it appears to be changing the pH of the oceans.

    Industrialization of the people we already have is a massive issue. Roughly 1.4 Billion out of 7 are industrialized. The rest are rapidly wanting in on the game.

    As folks industrialize they generally eat more meat. Cows currently produce more greenhouse gasses (as a function of effect - methane traps more heat than CO2) than cars.

    Inuit women's breast milk is so toxic their babies should not be drinking it. http://www.bluevoice.org/news_toxicarctic.php

    How much of these toxin's can we dump into the ocean before we reach a tipping point ? If we had to we could shut off the CO2 tap fairly quickly.

    Good luck filtering the Ocean.
     
  7. FoxHastings

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    I lived far from "civilization" for over 45 years..... as I aged , I thought, this is really inconvenient, more expensive , more uncomfortable....cities make me ill so I chose a lovely spot in between. I do not seek "shared experience" with the masses ...I consider it a weakness.
     
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    You and I a few not so different, just reversed. I did the city thingy until my early 40's then departed for more thinking space, at a pace that I modulate, where the volume of human interactions are more controlled by myself. NYC, Penn Station, is just a 6 hour Amtrak ride when I need a fix.

    I don't see the desire to dwell in the city as weakness but I do think people fear being alone with their own thoughts or the with the notion or fear that a more self reliant existance equates to hardship. Change is scary.

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    there are jobs in other parts of the country... even if you can't get them. Enjoy the commute that I don't have due to your limited skillset and economic value

    (you in the general sense, not YOU specifically)
     

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