A question of self discovery.

Actually that passage is refering to the end times. However you do have a point, there should be a balance. We shouldn't point out other people's sins so much that we forget our own while at the same time we shouldn't be too focused on ourselves so much that we fail to stand for righteousness.

 

The parable of the wheat & tares refers to people, righteous and unrighteous, people change and turn from their wicked ways and can be saved.

You stand for righteousness by being an example to others by letting your light shine, not by anything you may directly say to others, or alerting them to a perceived sinful condition, it is not your job to fix sinners, your job is to fix yourself.

 

You're just promoting bigotry and strife. Goodbye.

 

As I said, the passage is referring to when God comes back. In fact that's a solid proof that there is no pre-trib rapture but that's another topic. Rather than sending God's wrath on us now while its difficult to destiguish between Christian and non Christian God will wait until the tribulation to see who will bow before him and who would stand in their selfishness and pride.

There's an old saying that evil prevails when good men do nothing. Now I can point out that homosexuality is a sin but its up to you to do something about it.

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So this is what happens when you run out of logic. Good to know that you can still fight by slinging insults.

 

There is a huge difference between what happened to me, a 9 year old lad, and a lesbian couple, you should save a 9 y/o from the crime of rape, bade the lesbian couple good day, as they are NOT your concern.
If being Gay is indeed a sin, leave it to GOD, it is his job.

If Being Gay is indeed a sin, it can be no worse a sin than prostitution, fornication, living together unmarried, adultery, telling a lie, stealing, cheating in business, a cheating pair of scales, and when you sin, you repent each night, and your sins are washed clean by the blood of Jesus, this is set forth by precedent law in the scriptures by Jesus, he established this code so all sinners might be saved, the only sin that has no forgiveness is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, neither in this World or the World to come.
Jesus also said, Harlots and Publicans would precede many into the Kingdom of God.

A Gay person that tells a Lie, a Prostitute, a Cheating Businessman, all sin equally, non of the three can say, My sin is lesser than your sin !
All three merit the same punishment, however, Jesus came to save, not condemn to hell, because if punishment was the true aim, no one could be saved.
So to pretend that a Gay person is a worse sinner than a Lie Teller, is preposterously untrue.

Telling Me that a Lesbian Married Couple sins for helping and loving each other is a load of Dingoes kidneys, if they pray continually and ask God to forgive telling lies and offending him and not doing his will, they are covered by the blood of Jesus and are saved.

 

To quote you:

 

If I want to change them then yes it's up to God. However I can still voice my opinion on a debate forum. I won't come up to a gay couple on the street that they are doomed to hell and leave it at that. I would witness to them and leave it to them to make the decision.

But at the same time it's not true repentance if you repeat the sin continuely. Would you call it repentance if I robbed a bank, asked God to forgive me, and the next day robbed another bank?

Actually in he'll and heaven there's different levels of punishment. In the Bible it talks about a group that'll get it more that sodom.

And should end thei.relationship as a couple

 

You do not understand Jesus, or yourself, you sin just as badly as a Lie telling Lesbian couple, just not in the same way, but in a way that merits punishment, if you do not repent every day.
Everyone sins repeatedly every day, and needs to repent every day.

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" Actually in he'll and heaven there's different levels of punishment. In the Bible it talks about a group that'll get it more that sodom."

That made no sense, punishment in heaven ? and that was more guilt than sodom.

 

Pre-martial sex is a sin? Maybe to you, but I found it quite delightful.
I'd hazard a guess that 95% of the planet are sinners doomed to eternal torment for getting it on.

 

Well since Jesus forgave and still forgives Prostitutes, maybe not.

 

I was 11 years old and felt intense guilt and self-hatred.

Then, in my teenage years, I spent a while living in isolation and came out of it throwing off shame and generally becoming more assertive because I no longer feared being alone.

 

He forgives those who ask for it. It's not some blanket slate cleaner.

 

in grade school when i discovered girls had "cooties".

 

You do know there is a fairytale sub forum, correct?
What is it with your morbid curiosity of gays? You must be one of those that say gay people should "keep it out of your face" while putting that nonsense in everyone else's.

Is hypocrisy a sin?

 

It is the one sin Jesus really criticized very much, it is impossible for humans to fathom how wonderful the love of Jesus is for Us to forgive all Our sins, yet there are those who feel they are sinless and in a position to judge others they feel are guilty of greater sins, not realizing that in that process of judging their brother, they accrue that sin to all of theirs with interest and penalties.

To tell a lie is as bad as fornication and adultery, to transgress the least commandment is to transgress them all, hence the grave error to look at the sins of others, and see them as greater sins, when all sins are equal save one, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, for which Sin, there is no propitiation,
Neither in this World, nor the World to come.

Jesus is able to forgive all sins equally, and to pretend to judge others while you yourself are sinful is another even worse condition, as did the Pharisee in the temple as he judged the tax collector.



The Pharisee and Tax Collector


Luke 18: 9 - 14

9. And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10. Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."

Do not error on this important DOCTRINE !
This is one real fast track to perdition.

 

BTW, it's actually a 'good' topic. Decent answers are going to require some deeper thought and effective expression of the same.

About age 11, I took a direct interest in schoolmates of the same sex. My crushes on other boys were accompanied with romantic dreams about them. I was perplexed by this, as I was told (via social and religious training) that this was NOT the way things were supposed to be.

It felt wrong at first, because of what I'd been told... not because the emotional/sexual experiences were somehow 'repulsive'. And the first guy I was with was masculine, like me. We weren't feminine at all. We just liked each other sexually and enjoyed one another's company. Definitely we were close friends above all.

As the years went on through my teens and early adulthood, I was blessed with the masculinity to avoid most questions about my sexuality. People would ask if I had a girlfriend or whatever... but I casually deflected most of such inquiries. I even learned to control 'erections' in the showers and locker rooms; in both high school and the military. (Decent gay men aren't wild, uncontrolled sex starved animals; just in case some people foolishly imagine that being the case.) Self control is a must... no matter what one's sexuality may be; it's very helpful to possess it.

Like I said above, this is a great topic! Thanks for creating it.

 

I was 5 years old. We had just moved to Minnesota from Arizona. We were still staying in a hotel(one of those that had a kitchen). I remember, I was in the bedroom watching TV. I think my mom and sister were in the "living room" area and my dad must have been at work or something. I was flipping through the channels and remember coming to a show that showed a guy just standing there in his underwear. I stopped on that channel and remember thinking how nice that looked. After that scene passed, I went back to flipping through the channels. A couple years later when I was in the 1st grade, I remember using the bathroom before going to lunch. Another boy in the class was at one of the urinals. He was standing at it with his pants around his ankles. I remember looking at his little butt and admiring it.

Over the years in middle school me and a couple of the other boys in my class would fool around when we slept over at each other's place. Sometimes we would be completely naked. This was up until my 5th grade year. At the beginning of my 5th grade year, I started going to a Christian school. No more playing around for me.

When I was 15, I finally realized that I was gay. I came out to myself.

I'm now 32 and have been married to my husband for a little over a year. We've been together for over 8 years. I'm at a point, where I don't care what other people think. If they don't like that I'm gay, oh well. When I die, I'll get judged for how I lived my life, so I'm not going to worry about what other people think.