Worst Candidates I've Ever Seen

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  1. mbk734

    mbk734 Well-Known Member

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    These are some of the worst candidates I have ever seen. Donald Trump has bullied his way to the Republican nomination. The Dems have equally unqualified candidates like Hillary, who doesn't seem to have anything going for her other than being a woman as Donald Trump put it bluntly. With all of the smart and talented people in this country, why aren't they running for President? Has it become a stressful, thankless, undesirable job due to the media and constant scrutiny?
     
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    If I was in the US I'd probably vote Republican in all the previous elections (even if I disagree on some issues) but some of Trump's positions are so far away from my ideology (libertarian) and some of his statements are simply so out of reality that I expect many of the libertarian-leaning Republicans to abstain, vote for independent candidates, smaller parties or even for Hillary...
     
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    Trump has really divided the party. Many are saying he is a RINO or a plant, but he won the nomination. People are going to regret it if he beats Hillary. Even though Hillary is unimpressive, Trump is downright dangerous.
     
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    The republican field was very talented... Jeb Bush was a former governor and business man; Ben Carson a brain surgeon with a distinguished career; Ted cruz is a super intelligent man who used to work in supreme court litigating cases;rubio is very talented politically; John Kasich is perhaps the most accomplished politician of them all (even Hilary), his record alone should've gotten him the nomination... the list goes on and on..

    The problem here is that the American people have had enough of politicians who don't represent them and they just don't care about politicians, no matter how smart or accomplished they are. You see, it's the system that's broken and politicians have been conditioned to accept the system. The system is as follows - politicians speak from teleprompters, are polite, speak beautifully and make a long list of promises but when elected, they turn their backs on voters and serve the special interests that financed their campaigns. These politicians serve themselves and get little done. They have been promising to fix healthcare, do something about the debt and fix immigration FOR DECADES yet haven't been able to get anything done.

    so your post is an example of the never trump mentality, the failure to understand this movement. This is the year that the American voter tell Washington, enough is enough, serve us or pay the price and the price is Donald Trump.
     
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    The f*ing elites have divided the party by reneging on all their campaign promises, by ignoring the needs of the American people, leaving in their Washington bubble and catering to their corporate masters.... Who needs a party that exists for its own, its lobbyists and donors' self-gratification. Same applies to the democrats of course.
     
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    GOOD... Tell me, why does the republican congress have a 10% approval rating? It's funny how some claim Obama has done a terrible job yet his approval rating is around 50%... is 50% is bad, what is 10%?

    it's amazing to me that some think Trump is shocking or bad, well what's better? keep voting for politicians that get absolutely nothing done and defraud voters by serving special interests instead of them? don't you get it?
     
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    I just don't have the money and time to take on the neoconservative establishment in the GOP.
     
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    The 'smart' people aren't running because:

    1) they don't want to spend the time fundraising insane amounts of money to compete--and then be considered 'beholden' for those donations
    2) they don't want to have to spend the time effectively being unemployed
    3) they don't want their personal lives and families' lives riffled through, judged, and shredded in the media (all types of media)
    4) they don't want to have to deal with the massive stress of trying to get the equivalent of a schoolyard full of children to play nicely--for 4 years
    5) they aren't aspiring to be lifelong politicians.
     
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    And what happens if Trump is like the rest of the politicians? Then we are stuck with that moron for 4 years and all the damage he'll do; in the meantime he's destroyed the party's brand and it will take years, if not decades to repair.
     
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    Then I suppose he is going to do just as well as anyone of them, just like Hillary, Cruz or Kasich or Jeb would. In other words - status quo, no harm done. If on the other side he is the real deal and makes America great again or at the very least changes the direction of the country away from the cliff to which the politicians are driving it....

    You get the picture, right? worse case scenario - no loss, best case scenario - an enormous win.
     
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    At least Hillary, Cruz, Kasich or Jeb know the political system and how to get things done whether or not they are popular with everyone; Trump has no clue whatsoever what he's doing unless its buying real estate or running a casino. That's not going to go too far in the real world.
     
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    Actually I like Hillary considerably more than Bill.

    As I've said many times...Bill was the best Republican President we've had in my lifetime.

    Hillary is actually a Democrat
     
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    LOL, let's keep electing the same idiots who've been destroying the country because they already know the political system.... Let's never elect an outsider because he may turn out just like a politician.... It was OK to elect Obama though who neither knew the political system nor was an outsider....

    Please review your views and perhaps I won't need to explain how illogical, contradictory and mutually exclusive they are. Duh
     
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    As much as conservatives are pissed off at the GOP...that's not the same thing as "our country is destroyed".

    You really have to stop listening to the likes of Faux News.
     
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    $20 trillion in debt and counting, the gap between the 1% and the rest skyrocketing, millions of middle class American jobs are now in China, the middle class is disappearing despite growing economy, the country is overrun by illegals... These are not conservative things, if you had an ounce of intellectually honesty you'd recognize that these are American (and democratic) issues, that the country is being destroyed, that no party is willing to address these bipartisan disasters, other than Trump of course.

    I don't have cable, I have a brain instead... And unlike people like you I am an independent and I don't have blind party loyalty so I can actually exercise common sense and judgement.
     
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    lol... we all know Trump is nothing like the rest, just look at how the elite despise him. Do you think that if Trump wanted to have orgies with the GOP elite and serve special interests he would be trashing all of them 24/7? he has burned those bridges so this within itself tells you he would be different. There is no question that Trump will try to be different, he is clearly fed up with politicians and think they are incompetent and if he doesn't back up his rhetoric when elected, he will be hated like no other so he just cannot turn back now. Trump will for sure try to change things but sadly, i don't think he will be able to change much. The U.S. president cannot order people around and do what he wants, he has to go through congress and even the military is very well decentralized so even they can say no to Trump if he tries to do something reckless. I do think congress will be a roadblock for Trump but then again, he is master negotiator and can charm even his enemies so who knows. What i can tell you is that just by being elected, it will be a powerful thing because it will shake up the little party career politicians have been having for decades without paying for it, Trump is their payback. If voters put a loud mouthed, brash New Yorker who has trashed even his own party in office, it will be such a beautiful thing. I truly believe that Trump being elected will make politicians change, they will try harder to serve the voters and not just those who finance their political seats...they will understand that the voters ultimately have the power.

    Get it?
     
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    Obama was smart, we had that, sadly Congress doesn't work with smart, they need someone that can belittle them into getting stuff done.. Trump fits the bill
     
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    Democrats dont like them because they are republicans.

    Republicans don't like them because they act like democrats.

    Time for a shake up.
     
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    Comparing Presidents to congressmen is absurd. Additionally, most people approve of their own representative even though they despise the rest. Those others guys are only in it for pork spending, my rep is helping my community!
     
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    Politics in general is usually thankless and undesirable. That's why the best presidents often were the ones who didn't want it. A timeless, classic principle of the 1800's in America. It served us well. It only became "desirable"(if that's the word to use), when it became a self-serving, self-paying position. Our Founders didnt want the leadership of the free world to be a "career", but it became one.

    Between the career-ism of it, and like Elentari said: The media, the bashing, the attacks, the threat to one's life by the crazies. It's no wonder that most likely otherwise very good candidates would sit at home. Why be a public target when you can do work in the Senate/House and be as effective? If not more?
     
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    explain... and still, 10% is a disgrace, don't make excuses.

    again, the arrogance of the GOP elite and the ignorance from those who don't understand Trump's appeal. Yes Trump has had marital affairs and 3 wives, yes Trump has had some mishaps in his business career, yes Trump has often times used foul language and acted immature... wonder why he is still nominee? because these fake politicians have been promising things they never do, not for years but for decades and decades. You know even the LEGEND Reagan quadrupled the debt and went backwards on his promise to reduce the deficit and debt. Didn't Reagan also pass a amnesty bill? and raised taxes at times? yes, he didn't only cut taxes... but Reagan's appeal was that he was a smooth talking leader who made people feel good. He was also lucky that he had the cold war to deal with and people look at him as the man who broke Soviet Union. He certainly has all of this going o for him, but he wasn't a conservative at all, he was a big spender.

    Bush a conservative? ha..

    they have not being doing their jobs for decades and always coming up with excuses 'congress didn't let me' congress blaming presidents and vice versa, the American people have had enough! They want to punish Washington... This is why i believe Trump can win. Once the general election gets going, he will make this an election of the outsider vs the ultimate insider who belongs to a system that has not served he people. It will be a rough ride for Trump but over time, his persistent populist message may catch fire and be unstoppable... historians may look at 2016 as the year the American people punished Washington for decades of not serving them.
     
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    I took you seriously until your first sentence.
     
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    No you don't get it; there is no way I could ever support that moron for public office and i will work very hard to see that i do my part to make sure he's not elected to office. Get it??
     
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    fine, keep supporting those that sweep you off your feet with their scripted, politically correct remarks and then stab you in the back once you help getting them elected...

    I ask everyone here, why vote for a continuation of the the same we've had for decades? Every single presidential nominee says they will fix immigration, fix healthcare, reduce the debt and defecit and they never do... so vote for Hilary and we'll get the same for 4-8 years and then the next and the next and the next.. at this pace, by 2050 we'll prob have 50 million illegal immigrants, 0 manufacturing jobs, 40 trillion in debt (if US isn't bankrupt by then), unnecessary wars etc....

    just keep voting for politicians that are decent, nice, soft spoken but who pretty much do nothing. You all like to be promised things you never get and you're fine enabling this corrupt self-serving political world that mainly serve the powerful who pour the money into the system.
     

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