Hillary just ate Trump's lunch on foreign policy

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  1. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who in their right mind would care what Hillary Clinton has to say, on anything really.

    She is a serial liar, and is nothing but fail from her Presidential run before, to her Secretary of State endless and overlapping constant failures. Honestly, she was even a complete failure and a serial liar even as the First Lady.

    Trump shooting from the unpolished hip...is a thousand times preferable to the consistent, decades long fail of the polished loser, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know you think so.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wall St investment firms do.
     
  4. bwk

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    Not really! It's called good strategy, as opposed to your opponent.
    Sure it has. It's called money. We have the largest military budget in the world, yet, when you spread yourself thin trying to be everywhere, you will see more Benghazi's. If anyone knows that, Clinton does. The way Trump talks, he hasn't a clue.

    Look at how Germany failed. They spread themselves thin over two fronts, and one of them in Russia, in the winter. Bad mistake! They took money and resources and tried to spread themselves out too far. And I'll bet the guy in your Avatar knew that better than anyone. Which is why he carried himself with such military confidence. He knew that having the resources, the men, coupled with allied resources and men, he knew victory was very possible, as well as likely. Which explains why it was almost a sport for him. He loved it. He studied it. But, without those resources I mentioned, he would have been like anyone else; spread too thin.No telling what would've happened then?

    So, back to Clinton! You don't think she hasn't considered that by now? That to me is what she offers.
     
  5. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    I don't have to think so. After four years of fantasy scandal, what did it get you? Absolutely nothing! The facts think for themselves.
     
  6. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wall Street will play both sides of the political aisle. Hillary has them bought and purchased now for decades, Trump promises them Dodd Frank reversals of regs. They will pay money to both sides.
     
  7. PatriotNews

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    Meanwhile Hillary can brag about how she has sold America's nuclear materials to the Russians for a few donations to her foundation and a few more hundreds of thousands of dollars in her and Bill's personal accounts. How is that Russian reset working out for Hillary. Don't forget that Putin went into Crimea and Ukraine (as Sarah Palin predicted if we elected Obama) on her watch as Sec. of State. Hillary is a pushover for Putin. He would love her to be President.

    Of course, the press will ignore all of Hillary's crimes while criticizing Trump about generals. Have they ever asked Hillary about what general's she gets advice from? Hillary hasn't held a press conference since last August. Not one press conference this year.

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. When it come to being at a loss for words, that cannot be said of Trump, who has been on every media platform he can get on, while Hillary hides from the press.
     
  8. dujac

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    show me one thing she's done that you think is incompetent


    here's something that supports my assertion of her competence:


    "For the past painful year, the Republican presidential contenders have been bombarding Americans with empty propaganda slogans and competing, bizarrely, to present themselves as the least experienced person for the most important elected job in the world. Democratic primary voters, on the other hand, after a substantive debate over real issues, have the chance to nominate one of the most broadly and deeply qualified presidential candidates in modern history."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/hillary-clinton-endorsement.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too bad the GOP candidate can not seem to articulate that point, and many other poignant points in order raise the level of discourse in this year's election. Instead he parades around like a circus sideshow name calling and insulting members of the electorate that he needs in order to have a chance to win. Go figure?
     
  10. bwk

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    Until you link proof of that, that fairy tale is nothing more than a fabrication.
    Really? That's odd! You all from the Right have been ranting and raving about what a war hawk she is? lol! So now it isn't so?

    Again, more invented fabrications until proven. And we won't have to worry about that now will we? What a joke.
    Hopefully it won't be the same one's George Bush picked when he sent us into a war full of fabrications.
    Loss for words! Boss, if her speech last week is your idea of a loss for words, I sure hope those few words continue. Because those words are all she'll need for old doofus.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    That's because for the last 7 years our attorney general has been Obama puppets.
     
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    True, but which side claims to want to reign in Wall St?
     
  13. dujac

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    obama has integrity, the gop doesn't seem to even have a clue what that is
     
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    It would be hard to be worse on war mongering and foreign policy than Clinton has been. But hey, if you are a neocon, neoliberal, she is your girl. If you are fine with the gilded age income disparity that came from her and bill's neoliberalism, which has hollowed out this nation, please, vote for her.

    Sure, she has experience, but the worst auto mechanic I ever used had decades of experience. But like her, the guy lacked judgment. So, there are no bragging rights that Clinton has. She will get your kids who volunteer for the military killed, and she will lie to you about that. She will not fix anything in the middle east, but only throw gas on it. No one could do a worse job in foreign policy, no, not even trump. I would rather risk it with trump, than to turn that sociopath Clinton loose on the world.
     
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    Of course! The old "AG looking out for Obama card". You folks are a trip.

    In the meantime, other than slinging an awful lot of hate around, the Right has nothing to use in a court of law. If anything, Clinton has McCarthy and Gowdy dead to right conspiring against her to frame her for Benghazi. So, you can hoop and holler all you like. And the facts are, the Right concocted a conspiracy. Simple as that. And trying to dance around it, is never going to get you anywhere.
     
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    Come on, Hillary had a lot of success as Sec Of State. Her and Bill got very rich from it. The country didn't fare very well, but the Clinton family did great.
     
  17. dujac

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    our economy improved tremendously and our international reputation did, too

    despite all the obstructionism from republicans and looney libertarians

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    Hillary and Bill's personal economy sure improved tremendously.
     
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    I'd like to see her bark again. That was oh, so presidential!
     
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    Literally Hillary's record as secretary of state is more than enough to embarrass
    even dopes like Elmer Fudd.It is so pathetically comic in it's effectiveness and
    outright incompetent to make eating snow cones during a winter blizzard seem like
    a walk in the park.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As is Was the number of Food Stamp recipeints.The number of Jobless.
    The unbelievable rise in our National Debt.
    The consistent stagnantion of our average middle class salary.{DOWN $4,5oo yearly}.
    Was - Occupy Wall Street - a failure.Wall Street,Bankers and Obama Bureaucrats
    are doing very well.The top 2 Counties in the United States are outside K-Street{Washington }
    Obama has and is still continuing to build his Aristocracy of Washington Bureaucrats.
    The whole bidness of a war on the top 1% is total Fraud.Obama dines and
    fundraises and vacations with the TOP 1 %.
    The unemployment rate is Total Fraud.The lowest Participation rate in over 40
    years.yet it dropped 3/10ths a point last week with a 5 year low of only 38,ooo new
    jobs.How was that possible.Because it's Rigged.Like Wall Street.The top 1 %
    are the ones buying and trading shares.Often buying their companies own shares.
    Why not.The banks aren't lending to average Joe American. Obama has issued a War
    on both Reality and Capitalism.
    Any Questions.
     
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    The weapon deals provided and the immense donations suggests corruption.

    Mexican Ex-President and London Mayor went after Trump. QQ get paid more to shill.
     
  23. dujac

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    is there something wrong with that?


    thank republican for those things
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The republicans don't run the IRS { Targets conservatives } or the EPA { record
    level of new rules & regulations }.Or the DOJ { Decides which laws to abide }
    and who are worthy as Plaintiffs.It wasn't Republicans who run our Defense Dept. or
    Pentagon let alone The State Dept. It was in point of fact, Our Executive under Obama
    who decide things like when to issue orders to save those in harm's way like in
    Benghazi.Not give cushy Stand Down orders from inside a nicely appointed
    Situation Room where Video capability in LIVE TIME is provided c/o drones
    with video cameras.Then Retire early to bed so as not to fret too mush.
    Republicans,NOT A ONE had one lick to do with how a STAND DOWN Order
    was Issued and fulfilled leading to the slaughter of an American Ambassador
    { not since 1979 and Our Ambassador to Afghanistan was killed in the line of duty }.
    The Republicans were in charge of the Committee's like over the IRS scandal
    and Benghazi.Where things like subpoena's were aggressively ignored and scoffed
    at.Where Stonewalling was practiced as if an art form.
    Know thy Difference between a Republican and a Democrat.
    before it's too late.
     
  25. PatriotNews

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    Really? Try Google if you don't believe me.
    Of course. She holds the same defense views of neo-cons like George W. Bush. But at the same time, she's weak on defense, and she has a record of weakness against Putin and Russia. Putin went into Crimea, we did nothing. Putin went into Ukraine, we did nothing. But she sure killed Qaddafi, and handed Libya over to ISIS terrorists. Good job!

    Having classified information on an unsecured server in your home is a felony. We know beyond the shadow of a doubt that Hillary had classified information on an unsecured server in her home. That has been proven.

    Hillary voted for that war. She spread the lies. Actually, I just call it lies. I don't believe they lied because they did find WMD's. But if you want to call it lies, I'll genuflect to your interpretation of events, which means that Hillary and the democratic party did it too because a majority of democrats voted for that war...duh!

    She gave a speech last week? Who knew? Nobody cares what Hillary has to say. Less people saw that speech than attended the last Donald Trump rally probably. So what was this speech about? Was she bragging about her foreign policy failures as Secretary of State? Was she bragging about how she sold out the women of the world by taking money from rich Arab nations that abuse women? Tell us how this speech was such a slam dunk?
     

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