Why AR 15s

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are actually "better" weapons for those seeking mass murder but I won't tell you which ones they are. Those who understand the issue know what I am saying and those who don't, don't need any education

    but the fact remains, the media and Anti gun activists and Bannerrhoid politicians spend lots of time telling us who the AR 15 is the "weapon of choice" of mass killers. In reality, handguns are but this constant litany of highlighting the AR 15 is clearly one of the reasons why psychotic nut cases are choosing them
     
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    If this guy has used an AK clone, the mindless anti-gun droolers would froth on about "Kalashnikovs".
    They really don't care, just so long as American is one stop closer to banning guns for which there is no sound reason to do so.
     
  3. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Let me know when you find a handgun with a 100 bullet magazine. Or even 50. Since this gun now holds The US mass murder record it must work pretty well for it's intended purpose .
     
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    Magazine capacity is not an issue, Criminal intent and activity is, something you cannot legislate.
     
  5. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, mass gun murder record, not mass murder record. 9/11/01 killed many more. Even the OK city bombing killed over three times as many. The VT shooter killed 33 with two pistols with 10 round mags (i.e. that were compliant with the 1994 AWB).
     
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    Why do you need to lie to make a point?
     
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    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Because like most Liberals, he can't make his point if he limits himself to the facts and truth about guns.
     
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    Cheap, easy to reload and operate.
     
  9. OrlandoChuck

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    When a product is manufactured, the manufactured states it's "intended purpose". I don't think Bushmaster ever said that the AR's purpose was to help commit mass murder.
    Handguns can easily be reloaded in less than 2 seconds and kill just as many as an AR. They also can be concealed until the perp decides when the time is right.
     
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    Good point. The mass murderer Jared Lee Loughner was tackled to the ground when he was attempting to reload his glock. Thank goodness he didn't have an AR-15. There could have been a lot more victims.
     
  11. tazaroo

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    There are drum attachments for semi automatic handguns available. Glock comes to mind as an example seeing as though you asked.
     
  12. Xenamnes

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    Fifty rounds http://www.betaco.com/cmag_product_details.asp?product=25

    One hundred rounds http://www.betaco.com/cmag_product_details.asp?product=25

    Demonstrate that the intended purpose of the AR-15 is to commit mass murder. It is your claim, therefore it is your obligation to present your evidence.
     
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    Another registered democrat who demonstrated numerous warning signs, yet again no one ever spoke up.

    Give us a round number on how many murders per incident are regarded as acceptable.
     
  14. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Is there any evidence he used a 100 round magazine-which makes a hard to conceal AR 15 more unreliable and impossible to conceal? NO, rather he used normal capacity magazines that the banners want to ban. you people who want to limit magazines never ever tell us why the arbitrary number you pick is proper, and even worse, we know you won't stick with it. If you limit magazines to 10 rounds, I guarantee you will demand a five round limit if someone uses ten round magazines to kill a bunch of people-as the guy at VT did

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    I guess you cannot figure that an AR 15 is often harder to use for what Loughner did in a crowded area. You people who know very little-if anything about guns-just spew nonsense that has no basis in fact
     
  15. Regular Joe

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    How do you figure? He was using 33-round magazines. That's three more rounds than the standard AR magazine. Maybe try again.
     
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    Just letting you know...

    [video=youtube;8HPcAvIbNsk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPcAvIbNsk[/video]

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    I want to laugh, but all I can do is SMH.
     
  17. Regular Joe

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    If you indulge in watching too much youtube, you'll see the meltdown series where full auto AR, AK, and a Glock 17 are fired until they break. The Glock ran nearly twice as long as the long guns.
    BTW- No "clips" were used.
     
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    So what intended purpose does the manufacturer state for for the AR 15 ?
     
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    The AR15 is suitable for any and all of the traditionally legal purposes one might have for a firearm.
     
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    He never could have gotten an AR-15 into the venue. Try again.
     
  21. CourtJester

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    Seems mighty well suited for any and all of the traditionally illegal purposes one might have for a firearm as well.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    You asked:

    So what intended purpose does the manufacturer state for for the AR 15?

    I see you understand that you question was answered and you have no meaningful away to argue around said answer.
     
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    So is everything else, prescription medications are illegally obtained and resold and abused for illegal or recreational use, computers are used to illegally transact business fraudulently using credit card numbers, a knife can be used to eat a meal, it can also be used to murder people, People need to stop blaming an item of utility, and place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Criminals where it belongs, such burdens the Guilty alone should bear.

    The system the British / U.K. operates under the assumption that all People are criminals waiting for an opportunity, and as such, are NOT granted certain freedoms or liberties, as a lack of trust.
    Therefore, the ban on myriads of firearms are excused as such as needed to maintain public order as in the U.K. keeping it's subjects in line and needing a paternalistic Government and social dole of benefits and entitlement.
     
  24. Maccabee

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    Glock. You can buy 50-100 round drums for a glock. And I thought the shooter used an AK.

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    Glocks hold on average half the ammo of an AR if not a little more.
     
  25. DoctorWho

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    Unwieldy at best.
    Even the 33 round Glock magazines are unbalancing, I saw them years ago, they did not appeal to me then.

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    My Glock 17, 17 + 1 rounds.......
     

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