Trump's "Bring Back U.S. Jobs" plan has not penetrated his own businesses

There were none running that spoke out against the evils of free trade with communists. Trump is the only one to ever make it this far while opposing globalism built on the backs of oppressed laborers. Of course we would rather a politician, but they are all on the payroll of the globalist agenda. Trump is the only one.

 

Sure, within reason. However, he is also a very very public figure Private or public that doesn't insulate a person from criticism.

 

So technically, Trump is a globalist. Should he be speaking about his own evils?



Matthew 7:5

"Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye."

 

There is nothing hypocritical about running for president to change trade policies that he had no choice but to do business under previously.

This entire thread tries to explain that to the economically illiterate non Trump supporters. And you didn't read the thread, which suggests true illiteracy, in addition to the economics variety.

 

I know of no sudden conversion, I don't know of any businesses that would not prefer to purchase their products here if the products were competitive in the marketplace. When did Trump "convert" and what did he think before?

 

His stuff is made there i.e. overseas because labor costs i.e. wages are a small fraction of what they are here. No pollution laws and no labor laws are just a bonus. Shipping costs are insignificant. Goods made overseas are subject to import tariffs in addition to all the same regulations and taxes any other seller of goods would pay if those goods are sold in the United States. Globalization is a reality, it's needed, it's necessary. But we need a fair playbook and that's were the trouble begins. Not everyone agrees on what is fair and what is unfair.

The problem isn't taxes or regulation. It's cheap labor. That said, I'm for free trade, but everybody needs to play from the same rule book. That's not what Trump is arguing. What Trump is threatening is basically arguing for a massive trade war. That's not good for anyone, least of all American workers.

 

As opposed to Hillary Clinton, who pocketed, what, $150,000,000 in the last few years, from her *speeches*.

It is rich for Leftists and academics to badmouth those "greedy" conservatives, and big businesses, when money motivates everyone, everywhere.
Clinton has engaged in criminal conspiracies and coverups for decades, while fawning Democrats simply give her a pass, and a wink, and a giggle.

http://HatefulHillary.blogspot.com

 

That is exactly what Trump has been saying.

You should listen to Trump and not just what the media says about him.

Trump's statements on trade are identical to what you just claimed are yours. He supports free trade, but wants it to be fair, and often points to China's currency manipulation as a major problem.

HAS EVERYONE GONE INSANE?

You just specifically said, "That's not what Trump is arguing." when it is verbatim what he has been saying the entire campaign. Please realize that this level of cognitive dissonance can only be explained by severe brainwashing. Realizing that you have been brainwashed is the only way to begin repairing your mind. Good luck.

 

Here is a video of Trump on Hannity, saying exactly what you said he is not saying. If you want to go through all of Trump's rally speeches, you will find that he has reiterated these views throughout the entire campaign.

[video=youtube;bF6HgWi0mGU]https://youtu.be/bF6HgWi0mGU[/video]

Now, it is your responsibility to keep yourself informed of these things. If you can't handle that, then you should not vote.

 

Huh?

He had no choice? He could have went with American clothing companies. He made his choice, he had a choice.

 

How has her making speeches outsourced American jobs?

Apples and Oranges.

I don't like Hillary either but come on...

 

Why should someone have to pay something like a 300% price hike for going with American companies? Why should Trump pay for the government's failure to protect its labor laws and wage floors that IT instituted?

 

No, that is not what Trump is saying. I suggest you listen more carefully. If you listen carefully and with an unbiased mind, you will quickly discover Trump isn't giving you a lot of detail. He is arguing for "better terms or more fair terms" whatever that means. Trump doesn't say he wants to require the same environmental and labor standards in our trade agreements. He has never said that, not even once. That's you injecting your beliefs onto what Trump actually said. Trump has complained about currency manipulation. But there are currency manipulation provisions in current trade agreements.

Before you go complaining about "cognitive dissonance" in others you need to take a very long and serious look at yourself. I find the process of scapegoating fascinating.

What Trump would do, should he get the chance and do what he says he will do, he would being a massive trade war with the world and that's not a good thing for anyone, least of all US citizens.

 

How do you figure imposing environmental and labor regulations won't start a trade war, but Trump, who has taken nothing off the table, automatically will? Trump's point is that trade negotiation IS warfare, that we are losing badly. He has hinted that he realizes this is on purpose, but downplays that due to the psychological conditioning of the public to blindly reject conspiracy theories. Suggesting that there will be trade wars because we act to prevent losing our entire working class's means of self sufficiency has to be some sort of sick joke. We are basically the victims of a trade holocaust, and you fear a trade war. Amazing!

 

Not all American companies are a 300% hike.
People like you are the reason Corps go oversea's;Not the Govt.
How can the Govt protect labor when people such as yourself think it's okay to outsource?
Loose regulations caused this yet if they try to tighten up, you'll whine about big Govt.
Greed from Corps and nothing else has cause the issues we have today.record low wages and low taxes have a adverse effect, look at Kansas and Wisconsin, they both cut taxes and govt spending on social programs. Iowa increased and is booming.

 

No dude at this point the discussion apears to be about your need for self agrandisement.

 

Nobody says he should but it is hypocracy for him to criticize other companies like Ford for doing exactly what he is doing. That is what the OP is about Trump's hypocrisy for criticizing othe companies that are doing exactly what he is doing. Now if Trump had from the start been honest and said I outsource, Ford outsources and nobody is guilty because the system makes that necessary for a company to survvive but this is my plan to change the system then nobody would be accusing him of hypocracy and pandering.

 

No the funny part is where he says outsourcing will allow companies to create more jobs in America.

 

How many tax returns has this businessman produced?

None?

Shocking as well.

 

What do you bring. No facts, no Trump quotes, no undestanding of economics, just and endless supply of personal attacks in an attempt to cover the fact that you have and contribute nothing.

 

No one who is not trying to sabotage the country thinks it is okay to outsource. But if you are stranded on some remote island with no food with a friend who starves to death before you do, you will either do something no one thinks is okay, or you will starve to death as well. So I don't blame businesses for outsourcing. I blame the banks and politicians who concocted this scheme for global government via sabotage of our labor market accomplished by free trade with labor oppressive governments, inevitably lowering our standards to theirs.

What "loose regulations" are you suggesting led to outsourcing? Do you think we can ban American businesses from leaving the country? Are they prisoners here? The ONLY thing we can do is negotiate trade deals so that outsourcing is not as lucrative or provide tax incentives to stay, and, I suspect at this point, they don't pay enough in taxes for any possible incentive to cover the cost of not outsourcing.

Corporate greed is an aspect of human nature that must be accounted for when making any economics decisions, and indeed, many basic economics principles that you will learn about in college exist because of the presumption of greed, ie, the presumption that businesses must maximize profits or risk failure. When your government's macroeconomics decisions fail because of corporate greed, as you claim, the blame is on the macro decision makers who failed to understand basic economics, not on an inevitable aspect of human nature that should have been anticipated.

I think that government should lower taxes through job promoting incentives and increase spending, but I understand that doesn't fit the "either/or" ideologist conditioning the media has dulled your mind with in order to deadlock political discourse beyond any hope of derailing their globalist agenda.

 

Did I miss his list of specific cuts?

 

wasn't it part of Trumps plan to bring back jobs to America by imposing tariffs on Chinese goods and thus promote a trade war?

Oh, and didn't our government just block a major drug company deal the would have effectively changed the ownership of a drug company from the US to overseas, and ths reduce corporate taxes. Believe it was the purchase of Pfizer by Allergan. Believe this might have some relevance on whether the US can actually ban businesses from going overseas, since the government appears to have pretty much done that at least in this case.

 

Economics was required as a part of my physics curriculum. I didn't mean to get so much smarter than everyone else. It just happened. I found the class incredibly easy and ended up with something like a 130 numerical average, since the professor graded on a bell curve to ensure a majority of passing grades for each test, and I scored perfectly on nearly every test.

I always assumed the people in that class were just really stupid to need an average of 30 extra points on each test just to pass, but now I find that their deficiencies are anything but uncommon.

I can talk about myself all day long if that is the discussion you want to have.