Sen. Mike Lee Warns Of Backlash Over How RNC Handled "Conscious" Vote-

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    http://therightscoop.com/mike-lee-s...ash-over-how-the-rnc-handled-conscience-vote/


    Now, let's be clear on two things-

    1. Trump IS going to be the GOP Nominee........thankfully. :)

    2. At the best, NeverTrumpers are going to stay home or vote Gary Johnson on Election Day. They don't seem willing to "get on the bandwagon"...given this is STILL going on in the GOP.

    3. At worst, the NeverTrumpers will stage some "walk-out" or other public demonstration....on live national TV.....to embarrass Trump.

    4. Donald Trump will never unify the Republican Party.

    5. Rightwing Media and Rightwing bloggers will ignore #4 and keep trying to promote a false meme of "millions of Sanders voters going to Jill Stein or staying home."
     
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    no non-politician will ever get the support of those within the inner circle and that goes for Democrats as well.

    What Lee needs to understand is that the majority of voters made their voices known.
     
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    No, a modest plurality supported Trump. Temporary insanity is the most likely explanation.
     
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    Yes, the majority supported someone else.
     
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    So don't delegates have the right to make their voices known in the vote for the Nominee?

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    Trumpsters know that if the delegates are free to vote as their conscious dictates?

    His delegate count drops significantly....from 1600+ maybe down to 1500-1400.

    He'd still win the Nomination....but it would be publicly humiliating for him to see a hundred-plus delegates at a GOP Convention refuse to vote for the GOP Nominee.
     
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    So the right will never unify behind Trump but the democrats will forget about that whole Bernie Sanders thing like nothing ever
    happened? LOL....I love the mental contortions of blindly partisan hacks.
     
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    Sanders endorsed Hillary. Which of his opponents have endorsed trump? Huckabee, Jindal and Perry? Who combined for .5% of the vote lol
     
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    The DNC won't have to FORCE delegates at their Convention to vote for Clinton.

    As noted above, the RNC DOES have to force its delegates to vote for Trump.

    Anything you can argue about there???
     
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    Bernie has knuckled under. That much is true. Now how about all those Bernie followers that consider Hillary a corrupt spawn of the devil? LOL...good luck with that!
     
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    Probably because Little Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC long ago fixed the process.The forcing has already taken place through a process designed to cheat any challengers to Madame Clinton.

    Trump will have enough votes to garner the nomination
    and to the right, unlike the left, the process matters and personal freedom matters. As already noted, the democrats long ago fixed the game for Hillary.

    There is nothing to argue about. Only to clarify. I can't wait to see how Bernie Sanders pretends that nothing he's said about Hillary Clinton during the campaign is worth noting now. He's going to coalesce around a crook and a fraud and pretend he's happy about it all. Laugh out loud!
     
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    Sanders instantly becomes a complete FRAUD for supporting Hillary at this point. Makes Trump clarifying his words a day after he says them, seem like child's play. Bernie's ENTIRE campaign was based on DC insiders and big business corruption controlling everything and screwing over the little guy...HELLO!!!! THAT'S HILLARY! You simply can't support both of them without being a giant hypocrite...which is standard practice on the left. What a sell-out. Do ANY Liberals have a shred of morality or scruples?
     
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    What "shread of morality" do YOU have supporting a guy on his THIRD marriage to his SECOND mistress?

    Hypocrite.
     
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    How did the RNC rig their Primaries? Trump had it locked up on delegates when he only had gotten 40% of the vote.

    BTW, the reason for that was due to how long it took Mitt Romney to slug it out with Newt and Santorum in 2012....the RNC rigged the Primaries so they'd get a Nominee "quick and dirty".

    They just didn't expect it to be an idiot like Trump. By the time, they were organizing behind "Stop Trump" and looking at Ted Cruz?....it was too late.


    Plus, what will Cruz say about Trump at the Convention? Still attack him and criticize him?

    Cut your self-righteous partisan bullsh**.
     
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    It must be a traumatic blow for all of Bernie's followers to watch him just take his whole reason for being and throw it in the trash can by by actually endorsing what it is he railed against for months!

    How do you go from Hillary is a corrupt Wall Street lackey to Oh, by the way, I'm endorsing her for president? To not want to see Trump in the White House is one thing and Bernie, if he had a single shred of personal integrity and decency, could have adopted a middle ground, attacking Trump but not
    actually crawling into bed with Satan.
    But that's not the path Bernie chose and now he's made himself irrelevant and a hypocrite in a way that Hillary Clinton couldn't dreamed of doing herself.
    What a fool!
     
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    It's better for the delegates to stick with the winner of the vote than to tear their party apart. If Trump loses it won't be any different than the last two elections. If they go against the primary vote a lot of people will never vote for another republican.

    I vote for both parties, depending on the candidates, hell I've even voted green and libertarian parties. But if the republicans reject the will of the primary voters I'll never vote for another one. He plays by their rules and beat them, fixing the rules after the fact speaks to the character of the party
     
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    Their agreements far outweigh their differences
     
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    lmao!!!!

    Ironic isnt, the so called moralists, :)
     
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    Maybe but without a decent economy most Americans suffer. Hillary will sell us out through TPP because that's what she's been paid to do. I was on the fence between Bernie and Trump. I actually voted Bernie in the primary but I will never vote for Hillary. She's scum, her intimidation of her husband's victims is beyond despicable. Not to mention the entitlement mentality it takes to setup your own email server instead of using the proper system. No thanks to queen corruption.
     
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    What a pleasant way to think of things.
    There is only one agreement that I see and that is Bernie gets to remain in the party providing he pretend he's fully behind Madame Clinton.
     
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    LOL...that's how it goes when you have ten or so candidates. Try harder next time.
    Sure. Okay. :roll: I mean, you aren't really seriously biased or anything, so why shouldn't I believe you?

    Stop and think for a moment about Trump and his relationship to the RNC and see if you can figure out why your inferences are all so crazy and bass
    ackwards. If the RNC could really rig the game we'd be talking about Jeb Bush right now as the republican presidential nominee.

    I'm sure the message will be respectful but hardly
    fawning or over the top. After all, Cruz hasn't sold his soul the way Bernie Sanders has so I expect restrained and qualified approval.

    I'm sorry....did you mean for part of your inner monologue to make it into your post?
     
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    Not even close to a majority. 40% of the Republican base made their voice heard, that is 40% of the Republican base of 27% of the total electorate. Gallup's latest figures. But not a majority. Not 51% of the the total electorate which would be a majority, not even 51% of the Republican base which would be a majority of the Republican base not counting independents and Democrats.

    That is a pet peeve of mine, whenever some one refers to the votes Trump received as a majority.

    With that said, Trump won the Republican nomination fair and square. There is no denying that. He is the Republican Party nominee and candidate for president. For those Republicans who opposed him, its over. Forget it. If you don't like Trump, stay home and don't vote. Vote third party if you want to voice your objections to both Trump and Hillary as I will. Or vote for Hillary. But let this drop, you should have let it drop a long time ago. What's done is done.

    The choice has been made, for good or bad, but the choice has been made. This is getting tiresome. I do not like the choice, but it is not up to me to change that choice. Once Trump received that 1237th delegate, it was over. I recognize Trump was the GOP nominee, I won't vote for him, but recognize him as such and you should do the same. How you cast your vote is entirely up to you, but let this drop.
     
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    Which provides what benefit? He's never needed the DNC before and even less so now that he's a household name.
     
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    A majority supported everyone else to a far lesser degree than the 45% plurality that supported Trump.

    You are obviously not a student of statistics.
     
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    He must need something or he wouldn't be endorsing the woman he's been referring to as a Satan for the last four months or so.
    You can do better than that, or perhaps not. Your claim that he's never needed the help of the DNC before is about as absurd as it gets.
     
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    HRC primary votes 16,847,075
    DT primary votes 14,009,098

    a majority of republican primary voters voted for Trump. an even larger majority of Dem primary voters voted for HRC
     

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