Jeb Bush: Trump does not represent the future of the country — or the GOP.....

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  1. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    Call it a tipping point, a time of choosing or testing. Whatever you call it, it is clear that this election will have far-reaching consequences for both the Republican Party and our exceptional country.

    While he has no doubt tapped into the anxiety so prevalent in the United States today, I do not believe Donald Trump reflects the principles or inclusive legacy of the Republican Party. And I sincerely hope he doesn’t represent its future.

    As much as I reject Donald Trump as our party leader, he did not create the political culture of the United States on his own.

    Instead, they have given rise to the success of a candidate who continues to grotesquely manipulate the deeply felt anger of many Americans. Trump’s abrasive, Know Nothing-like nativist rhetoric has blocked out sober discourse about how to tackle America’s big challenges.

    And, on the left, Hillary Clinton promises to continue the disastrous foreign and economic policies of the Obama administration, as well as its hyper-partisanship. She has gone as far as to say Republicans are her “enemy” — a clear sign she doesn’t have any more interest in doing the hard work of forging consensus than her former boss does.

    We can renew our country by applying conservative principles and aspirational politics over the long haul, but it will take stick-with-it-ness and strong leadership in the years to come. The Republican Party has always been the party of hope and optimism, of opportunity and liberty. I’m confident we can be that party once again.....snip~

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    Couple messages to Jebe Bush.....First, neither are you, the Future of the Republican party. Filter that in Jebe.

    Second, uhm Jeb. We never quit being that party. Moreover.....Hillary and the Demos have done exactly what you said. Calling Repubs the enemy. Equating them with the Iranians. The NRA with Communists. BO peeps non stop blaming and talking down to Repubs.

    So Jeb.....the Demos have made their call out. They aren't going to stop doing what they already started. Now that is a reality the future Repubs face. Playing their bipartisan game doesn't work Jebe. The people want the change and the Demos out of power governing things. Either get on board.....or be left behind.
     
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    It looks to me like Jeb is not the future of the republican party. He has proven he is not adept at reading the voters. Jeb ran against Trump, the voters spoke, so if Jeb thinks the republicans are not for Trump where does that leave Jeb? Only career politicians, even when they lose, refuse to believe the people have turned against them. Establishment arrogance.
     
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    Jeb is right about one thing - electing Donald Trump is not going to solve any of white America's problems. You can deport 100% of all immigrants back to Mexico. Won't change a thing. White middle class workers will continue to see their fortunes dwindle, as their wages fall, their jobs are lost, their expenses rise, and the American dream slips away.

    This has nothing to do with illegal immigration. It has everything to do with the way our economy is set up - by protecting large corporations and enforcing their monopoly power, it puts negative pressure on wages, and helped to enrich the top 1%. Life is about negotiating power. And when you are a single worker, and you are dealing with a large multinational corporation, you have ZERO negotiating power. So they are free to push you around and just have to take it. And that's the problem in America. But instead of identifying the problem, Trump is blaming.....Pedro--the guy cutting your grass. LOL. Talk about stupid! At this point, it's just a big con----and the white middle class of America has been hook, line, and sinker.
     
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    Who is in favor of illegal immigration? Speak up. BTW we have laws against monopolies. Henry Ford didn't start out as a giant company, hard work and smarts propelled him from the garage behind his house. Don't be so quick to condemn corporations. Trump should not dwell on white Americans, he should dwell on what is best for our country as a whole. You will never get that from money hungry pandering Hillary.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish the Bush's and Clintons would all just go away. The country needs to move on.
     
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    I think Jeb's immigrant wife had a lot to do with his immigration stance. He also championed common core education which is also unpopular. But Trump is talking about illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants. The Republican convention will help doubters understand what Trump and the people are favoring. At least one of the speakers is a father of a son who was murdered by a gang member here illegally and released the same day of the murder. If you can't get your head around that, then vote for the criminal that was not indicted. I'm sure you will believe every word she tells ya.

    Steve
     
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    Jebe thinks people still want to listen to him. He isn't going to the Convention and he knows the Never Trumpsters have failed to take Trump down. That which he and his family are part of.

    Yet here he is before we are going Convention time......just to take another shot at Trump. When the only shots he should be taking Right now.....should be aimed at Hillary and the Democrats.

    Its time the Neo Cons take to the back seat. Where they can be as friendly with the Clintons all they want. Especially, right after she loses this election and doesn't matter to the US anymore.
     
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    while I agree with Bush here, I would also say I feel the same about another Bush ever being President
     
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    Sour grapes. I believe old Jeb! had his head dunked in the toilet one too many times.
     
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    Bushism is not the future of the Republican Party, although given Hillary, it may find new life in the Democratic one.
     
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    by the bully Trump?
     
  13. MMC

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    Nah, by other Repubs. But they forgot to put the seat down.
     
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    Jeb would have been easy to bully throughout his life, especially when his OWN mother tried to stop him from running for president.

    Steve
     
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    Yes. The GOP has revolted against the government class, the Dems are running its most corrupt, inept, warmongering crony as its standard bearer. Their message will be that its "too risky" to upset the status quo, a status quo that serves a smaller and smaller insular group. Those with much to lose, will probably hear that pitch, those who aren't doing so well, are going to be looking over Trump. Pence was a very solid choice.
    He represents a breaking of the old order, nothing more.
    Deft, but not gross. There is much to be angry about, starting with, we are FREE CITIZENS not subjects for an untitled nobility to practice their pipe-dreams and social theories on. The Federal Government needs to do, a lot less, a lot better.
    We are flooding our nation with dangerous folks because the Government wants votes, that compete with ours, and cheap labor, that undercuts our pricing of ours. And thy are assuring us that they don't give one damn about what we think about that. Well, f 'em. And outside of Trump, NOBODY seems willing or able to stand up to these arrogant clowns, so for better or worse, Trump it is.
    She is a mean nasty corrupt arrogant self-entitled no talent screw-up and a warmonger.
    We need to return to the Principles of our Founding: Liberty, Freedom, a government restrained, individual free-choice expanded to their reasonable outer boundaries.
    Jeb! is a low energy chump that the political operatives, who routinely take in 15% of the money spent while they run a campaign, were going to run and in the end graciously concede the election to Hilary. They were looking forward to the pageantry, fine with the loss, and slobbering over the haul they were going to rake in from the most expensive presidential race in US history. It is obscene what they had planned and were perfectly fine with. One problem. TRUMP landed in their pool with a cannonball jump from the balcony.

    One term from Trump, then two terms from Pence.
     
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    Jeb! Lays Out His "Vision" To Reclaim The Republican Party From Donald Trump

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    That's what I said months ago. One Term for Trump and the next Two for whoever the Repubs ran. This will put an end to the Demos bull(*)(*)(*)(*) for over a decade. While really putting their party on the ropes and at the edge of being destroyed.

    They have no bench. They only control 7 stated totally. 14 with some holding. Their policies can be dealt with and thrown into (*)(*)(*)(*)ter. Time for them to experience getting Ramrod. See how they like it......and if they can hold their party together.
     
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    Bob Dole 'disappointed' in Jeb! for skipping convention.

    "I'm really disappointed that he's now — I watched him on TV going after Trump. I mean, Trump was on the stage with him and Trump said some things that I know upset Jeb!, but they did sign the pledge,"

    Yup Jeb! signed the Pledge!

    You just can't trust a low energy mamma's boy like Jeb!

    Dole is a warrior. When he gives his word, he follows through even if he doesn't want to. It's a matter of integrity.
     
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    The republican party doesn't have a future, so there's no point in arguing about who's going to lead it. Trump is a long distance from being the most insane GOP candidate, so it's a bit dodgy to call him on his 'radicalism.'

    The 800-lb gorilla that is sitting in the middle of the GOP living room never gets called out. The GOP has gone totally round the bend, and that was happening when Trump was still a Democrat. The GOP today is a totally different animal than the GOP of Eisenhower and Nixon - that was the party I admired and respected. It no longer exists today.
     
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    Jebe.....not a man of his word, huh. He might as well as join the Demos.
     
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    So this asshat Jeb has not gotten the message so clearly conveyed by the primaries that no one gives a crap about him or what he says. He is an insignificant loser. He is a nobody, end of discussion.
     
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    Quite a telling comment. There's no room left in the GOP for 'moderates.'
     
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    Cmon, we are talking about a man who has to have his name on his shoes. :grin:

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yet plenty of room where keeping ones word, doesn't matter. Indeed.....quite a telling comment.
     
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    You may have admired the GOP of Eisenhower and Nixon (in the rear view mirror) but you probably wouldn't vote for it. But I do agree that the GOP, as currently configured, doesn't have a future. It will either reform itself or become a fringe party like the Libertarians or Greens and there will be something else to replace it.
     
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    He's just acting like a republican "read my lips no new taxes".
     

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