I blame the EU and progressives for the France attack !

Yeah, you aren't much on sarcasm. Our states are much like the German states.

To claim America cannot secure its border until Nebraska is fenced, is as silly as claiming Germany cannot secure its borders until Bavaria is fenced, which makes no sense at all. And you caught right on. Great work!

Another "lone wolf" with a lot of friends: Nice terror attack: Bouhlel sent text message minutes before attack asking for more weapons, as couple are reportedly arrested on suspicion of supplying gun.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...lice-vans-blocking-promenade-withdrawn-hour1/

 

You are right ... there is someone who did not understand EU issue and here particularly the Schengen Agreement.

But on the other side … you are right a fence between West Virginia and Virginia with fence and border control as to Mexican border will be fine to stop these Hispanic illegals to move towards Washington…

BTW … footnote:

And right this point of Schengen agreement makes one of these many BS lies of the Pro-Brexit persons in the UK to ridiculous: “We want to have back control on our borders”…

Ehm … the UK never signed the Schengen Agreement and so UK never lost their own control of their borders. It was pure their internal affair how far to control their borders and not a matter of the EU. So same story as this BS with 350 million GBP spent each week to Brussels which are in reality only 110 million GBP, because 240 million GBP went each week from Brussels to the UK.

 

The German states? Schengen has been around for a long time. I am not going give up my freedom to move around Europe because Americans are afraid.
Have you seen Europeans tell Americans to wall of Texas because you have a lot of illegal immigrants? No... Because it would be as stupid as what you want us to do.

Is fear all you got? I mean... Fear and ignorance?

 

...and like most "nationalists" around the world they are made up of jingoists and xenophobe's

 

Except your so-called perspective is irrelevant to the facts of the case. Until otherwise noted(and again, I HIGHLY doubt it. Use that brain of yours to connect the dots we DO have. A drunkard, someone who thought little of his life) is some Tunisian nationalist?

A man cares that some 20 years before his birth, his county was colonized by France? Why would he even bother living there, if that were the case?

We find there isn't the tiniest thing relevant to your screaming at the mountain hills that Tunisia was once occupied by the French. Again, answer the question: If so, how many innocent French lives should be taken to atone for France's former colonialism?

Come back to us when you're willing to discuss the topic seriously and actually try to think about what happened.

 

What on earth does the colour of ones skin have to do with anything? There have non-white people in Europe far longer than there were anything but Native Americans in the US and longer than many of the national borders that exist in Europe so again I ask, what has skin tone got to do with anything?

 

Being a Tunisian nationalist is not really my point. A long negative history filled with hate and violence is. A colonial history coupled with more recent interventions in the area.
It is much easier to recruit a Muslim in France with that past than say in Denmark that has no such negative history. The same can be said of Germany. That is the point I have made since the attack happened. Indeed the last years of terror attacks in France show exactly that.'

If you really think French colonial and recent history plays no part in the easy radicalisation of petty criminals you are wrong. Simply wrong.
Try searching for the theme and see if you find a lot of articles like this one;
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...t-terrorism/GSaZbcZuqXtbRE9CiwWPcO/story.html

 

Wow, we actually agreed on something.

 

1956 isn't really that "recent". I'll give you this: Just maybe these groups are using these past historical events as propaganda to radicalize the disenfranchised Muslim youth. But let's take a look at France: It, more than most nations in Europe considers itself multicultural. In fact, France wants the melding of communities. It's a part of their secular identity.

So is it that France is not making an effort to welcome in Muslim youth? Quite to the contrary, I believe France is making that effort. In much the same way America is making that effort. So, why are they disenfranchised?

As seen in London neighborhoods: By their own choice and discretion. They want to be isolated from the West, they don't want to eat the Western foods or go to the western churches, or even hell the western schools. They want to live in the West and yet have an isolated world from them(at best), at worst they want to capsize the Western World.

From their statements and actions, this becomes clear to us all. So, how much longer can the West accept "blame" for these attacks? Should we remove every troop and every tank from the ME? Given even a partial withdrawal in Iraq didn't change much, you can see how I have very little hope that an unilateral surrender will change much.

Nay, such a surrender would give the terrorist organizations even more confidence, even arrogance that it can dictate Sharia to the West.

 

France has pursued a quite ruthless ASSIMILATION policy. They didn't ascribe to the multicultural thing. Neither in the colonies nor at home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assimilation_(French_colonialism)

French nationalists massacred Algerians as recent as 61.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

They are? Is that why they are massively unemployed? Listen... I have a feeling you have zero clue about the subject.
Try here;
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/why-is-france-a-target-look-to-its-alienated-muslim-youth/
And maybe just research the subject in general.

As did Italians, Danes, Chinese and whomever came to the USA. In fact... Contrary to French policy both the UK and US have allowed people to integrate over generations without forcing assimilation like the French.

The partial withdrawal from Iraq would have helped a lot you think? After killing hundreds of thousands?
It is quite clear you have had no one that bombed you ever. You think that people just forgets that you came and destroyed their country. Amazing... It was 70 years ago! From beginning to end you show how disconnected you are from facts, reality and how people experience history.

Yeah... You couldn't have shown better how disconnected you are from reality. Good job

 

I'm disconnected from reality, meanwhile you're trying to justify killings of innocent people over colonization of some 60 years ago. And hey, I'm presently unemployed too but that doesn't mean I have a backstrap to my back looking to kill people. If these people find they cannot live in France, then they should leave France.

 

No... I am explaining why French Muslims radicalise easier.
I am not sure why Americans who clearly didn't even take the time to pick up a history book think they can come here and "explain" the situation.

 

You can do what you want. Who told you differently?

 

You're giving an excuse as to why you think French Muslims radicalize easier. You're "pretending to speak for them" and worse yet, you actually think this is a justification. And quite frankly, I'm not buying it. If that were the case, he wouldn't have been "unknown" but previously active. If that were the case, we'd have full out riots in France from the French-Muslims.

So, no, sorry, I'm not buying that some former colonization that ended around 1960 is the reason for this attack(or even the other attacks). What about the Belgium incident? Did Belgium colonize other Muslim countries?

You may think Europe is some mysterious continent, but not really. Especially when articles are sometimes written in English. I'd say that some informed Americans know more about Europe, than Europeans know about America.

 

Sorry man, but the history of many European states includes colonization in the past, mostly in Africa. So they are connected with their Ex-Colonies all the time or why do you think that France intervened so often in Africa still?

The point is in France as in many European countries not that so called "refugee wave", because even if there are estimated 1 to 5% Jihadist Terrorists inside ... what excludes 95 to 99% of them to be that evil problem as they are marked from people like you to be ... the main problem are these immigrants who came decades before and here the 2nd and 3rd generation of them. We have the fact that the integration of "other" people in the community failed too much and this happens on one side that they get no real chance in life on one side, as well and lesser the problem that some are un-willing to integrate.
What is the problem that Muslim women want to wear a veil on the head? I have no problem with it until they don't demand that all should do or until they respect our culture and law. This is called tolerance and of course I demand tolerance from both sides with it.

But it is fact that many 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants have lesser chances in life as natives in the country. You are ready with school, you have very good grades and now it is time to start working. Often it happens that an immigrant with good grades and not running around like Osama Bin Laden in clothes has simply lesser chances against a native with lesser grades to get the job. Such things cause reasonable anger at them when being marginalized. In this anger some of them went back to their routes and here unfortunately become victims of the these rat pipers in Mosques and elsewhere to become radicalized Islamists.
This is the real danger and here the society has failed, not the immigrant and if we take a closer look on these young people, there are often Christian teenager who become Jihadists! Ask yourself why!

 

Again: If they can't live in France(or the West), they should go back to their Middle Eastern lands and make due there. Why should France be obligated to ensure(affirmative action) that French-Muslims are hired? Should the US Government also add Muslim-Americans to the list? The very few of them who are actually here?

Affirmative action ALWAYS ensures someone is left holding the bag. And thus, someone will always be disenfranchised from the market. That's why it makes more sense to have strong, healthy nations as opposed to a few. Because the US can't not only police the world, it can't feed the world either.

 

First of all … USA has about 319 million citizens of what are about 19 million Muslims. Of course only a minority in comparison to the rest where about 51% Protestants are the majority in religion.
In the complete EU are about 509 million citizens of what are about 6 to 7 million people Muslims. Well … where are more Muslims living now … USA or EU?

More important, of course can’t the US play the “World Police” always, but the problem is that they are playing this rule in history up to today often unwanted and in reality only as camouflage for pure own interests with giving a crap on others. More as that, the US had and has in these issues the bad behavior to leave the mess they have caused and so the USA inherit an unfinished job the others.
On the other hand … when the USA is wanted to play the rule of world police officer, they regret form it and give a crap on it. This all brings in result no good picture about the USA policies and has a very bad taste in mouth often.

Point out of this is too, that the problems as the current refugee problem are in huge parts created by the USA too, but the consequences are not taken by the USA. Best example is Syria. Libya and Afghanistan and the people fleeing from there into the EU.
Mission accomplished in the eyes of the USA and ready as in Libya or working with half ass as in Syria caused these problems why people flee from their countries … aside economic problems too of course!